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    Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:17
Are you serious?

I was searching the site for artists I knew about that I had yet to review, and Nick Drake came to mind. I never doubted for a second that he would be listed here, either under eclectic or folk, or at the very least prog-related. But nope. No search results.

Why, exactly, have none of the good genre teams here accepted this guy? It seems quite odd to me. The guy was highly skilled and innovative. He's even mentioned on the Prog Folk page on this site. So why no inclusion? He must have been suggested by now. Why was he ultimately not included? 
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Points: 19643 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:36
I have a copy of Pink Moon, been incredibly long since I've listened to it though. It did strike me as being somewhat proggy although I didn't really think much of it. I can't comment too thoroughly because I've only heard that album, but I think he could be a candidate for prog folk or crossover.
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:38
^ Mikael Akerfeldt is a fan of him, so you may want to re-think your opinion, there. Tongue Wink
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Points: 19643 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:43
When I said 'I didn't really think much of it' I meant its progginess, not its quality as an album. I've only listened to it a few times.
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:44
LOL
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.....whaa?

Sometimes I think I am crazy. Cause apparently my idea of prog is so far gone from other peoples'.

Let's just get this all over with: If you're a band from the 70s and you're not The Carpenters, you will be proposed for addition.

And here I was thinking Comus was Prog Folk when actually James Taylor is. Boy was I wrong.
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:56
Important announcement: stonebeard is very clever and funny, and his opinion is the be-all, end-all opinion on the site. Let us all take a moment to pat him on the back for his highly original behavior in this thread.
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Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Important announcement: stonebeard is very clever and funny, and his opinion is the be-all, end-all opinion on the site. Let us all take a moment to pat him on the back for his highly original behavior in this thread.
And for yours, too.
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:03
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Important announcement: stonebeard is very clever and funny, and his opinion is the be-all, end-all opinion on the site. Let us all take a moment to pat him on the back for his highly original behavior in this thread.
And for yours, too.

Hi, Henry. 

So what's your take on this? Is Drake experimental enough to qualify, or not?
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:14
Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Important announcement: stonebeard is very clever and funny


I agree.

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


and his opinion is the be-all, end-all opinion on the site. Let us all take a moment to pat him on the back for his highly original behavior in this thread.


I'm intrigued that my attempt at humor apparently has so many layers, included assumptions that other people accept my opinions and apply them, that I make jokes not for sarcastic, ironic, and self-pleasing reasons but for others' approval, and that I was aiming at being original.

Here I was thinking I was just trying to be an dick. But now I'm a dick with layers. (Mental image time...GO! )
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:15
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:

Important announcement: stonebeard is very clever and funny


I agree.

Originally posted by JLocke JLocke wrote:


and his opinion is the be-all, end-all opinion on the site. Let us all take a moment to pat him on the back for his highly original behavior in this thread.


I'm intrigued that my attempt at humor apparently has so many layers, included assumptions that other people accept my opinions and apply them, that I make jokes not for sarcastic, ironic, and self-pleasing reasons but for others' approval, and that I was aiming at being original.

Here I was thinking I was just trying to be an dick. But now I'm a dick with layers. (Mental image time...GO! )

LOL Damn, you got me to laugh after all. Foiled again! 
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:44
IMO Drake would be a mighty long shot for PF
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Points: 4900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:46
^ You might be right. I'm not sure why I assumed he was already here. Maybe because so many of us progheads naturally like his work. (Or maybe it's just me Embarrassed)
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Points: 6457 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 02:47
Stonie LOL

I really, really like Drake's all three studio albums, but so far I haven't heard any prog in his folk.

Though I'm not really at all familiar with other folk artists of the era, so I can't compare his experimental tendencies to what was generally going on at the time. Gorgeous music anyway.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 06:53
Could we just cut the long story short and suggest mister Drake for Prog Folk? That way, he could be either a) added, b) officially rejected, and case closed, without any flame wars.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:01
This thread : http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25384 has the thoughts of Sean Trane, a Prog folk specialist on the site.
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:06
Who's next : Vashti Bunyan, Bill Fay, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, John Martyn, Buffy Sainte-Marie ?

Should I understand that all the folk-rock artists/bands of the late sixties/early seventies belong to folk-prog ???

Just because you like a band, it doesn't mean it has to be prog...
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Points: 17330 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:10
Well, Joni could be here, but not for her folk stuff.  But her later 70s music with Jaco and Methany, stuff like Hejira and songs like Paprika Plains are worth considering.  
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:11
Just a thought: that thread is almost 4 years old, and two of the artists mentioned there - Tim Buckley and John Martyn - have since been added. 
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:13
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Well, Joni could be here, but not for her folk stuff.  But her later 70s music with Jaco and Methany, stuff like Hejira and songs like Paprika Plains are worth considering.  

her most expeimental album has to be : 'the hissing of summer lawns'. 
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