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Tony R
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 11:47 |
micky wrote:
is nice to see a list that isn't populated (polluted) with 'popular' yet 2nd rate crap like Porcupine Tree.
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Even if you dislike Porcupine Tree I am at a loss to see how such carefully crafted and executed 2nd rate material could ever be considered crap. Maybe if Steve Wilson sang in Italian, you wouldnt be quite so exacting...
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 11:14 |
Oh, and I agree with Mickey that Porcupine, at least in 2009, didn't offer up a release that merited an award (except possibly for recording - it was one of many with stellar mix and production).
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 11:12 |
As for whose awards - I didn't want to make it too transparent - those who'd really like to know would have found out anyhow.
It's a web site called Progawards - www.progawards.it to be specific :-)
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micky
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 10:19 |
sure thing Bob... didn't realize in today's PA's that offering an opinion on their music . on a musical forum was being disrespectful. Perhaps we should just post offensive pictures of scantily clad women and offend potential women who visit the site. We do want to be respectful. I can dig that.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:57 |
micky wrote:
"2nd rate crap like Porcupine Tree." |
Please show respect for the artists. Thanks
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Easy Livin
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:54 |
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, who's "awards" are these?
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:40 |
Some categories (like Artwork) didn't have stand-outs in the first place. The only one I know is Kotebel, and that was a bitter dissapointment for me.
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rushaholic
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:28 |
Nosound is a great band from Italy - a lot of Pink Floyd and Porcupine Tree influences. They are signed to the Burning Shed label.
Their myspace has a great cover of Echoes.
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micky
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:07 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
^ No comment...
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hahha.. none needed. You said it all in a few words. let me rephrase my previous post. it is nice to see awards lists that look past the popular and try to judge quality rather than the 'name'
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 09:01 |
^ No comment...
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micky
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 08:54 |
is nice to see a list that isn't populated (polluted) with 'popular' yet 2nd rate crap like Porcupine Tree.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Rivertree
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:07 |
I only know N.y.X - the album is innovative for sure - don't know if it deserves such an award though ... best italian album ... hmmmh ... let's see what Jim thinks about that  the selection seems to be very unusual .. but don't know anything about the criteria ...
Edited by Rivertree - February 28 2010 at 07:11
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Raff
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 06:59 |
Being familiar with three of the winners, I am a bit puzzled. However, I should take another look at the nominees to see if there were other albums/artists I would have chosen over those listed. Aradia is a good album (I even posted a review of it here), but not a masterpiece. The artwork on the Purgatorio 4-CD set is excellent, but I have seen others I liked more, and the It's the End album is way too long in my opinion - almost 80 minutes of that kind of music is really excessive for a debut.
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 04:47 |
I'll have to admit that the winners here aren't the best known artists around, although both Big Big Train as well as most of the other artists who issued highly popular albums in 2009 were in the running for these awards.
Personally I think that the fact that the members of this jury settled for mainly unknown bands say a lot about the vitality of the so-called prog scene at present. That there are bands out there producing material good enough for most of the jury members to regard them as more worthy of an award than the well known acts.
If others feel these bands are good enough is another question entirely of course - but as far as running such an awards competition goes, there aren't too many others around doing just that.
It would have been good for the genre to have at least one other such setup obviously. Finding the people willing to get familiar with several hundred new albums each year would of course be a challenge. Especially since all of them would have to have a rather wide taste in music ;-)
Edited by Windhawk - February 28 2010 at 04:48
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fuxi
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 04:29 |
No offense, but you seem to be moving in some strange alternative universe, where all the prog bands bear unfamiliar names.  In any case, I can hardly believe your list of "winners" contains any album that's better than THE UNDERFALL YARD!
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Logan
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:34 |
Considering that, judging by the artists nominated, progattitudes would be my favourite category there (with several well-liked albums nominated for it), listening to myspace, I'm very disappointed with their winner
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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SaltyJon
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:33 |
Awesome, thanks for the links. I'll check them out soon.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:29 |
I haven't heard any of those xD
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SaltyJon
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:18 |
Awesome. I'll have to check them out and see what they find to be the best of the best.
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Windhawk
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 01:12 |
Hehe. Many more familiar artists were considered - although not absolutley all bases were covered those of us in the jury did consider hundreds and hundreds of records before the winners were decided. The nominated and finalists are easily tracked at the progawards website - www.progawards.it - if anyone wants to check ;-)
I'll edit in some MySpace links in a bit - so that the artists can be given an initial check by the curious.
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