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lucas
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Posted: February 12 2010 at 08:38 |
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Aren't High Tide and Led Zeppelin heavy metal ? (1969)
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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tamijo
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Posted: February 13 2010 at 09:59 |
I'll break the silence and admit i voted for Born Again, may be a sin, to vote for the Gillan/Sabbath,
but it is a great very unik album.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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idiotPrayer
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 10:39 |
Paranoid closely followed by the debut
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valravennz
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 14:31 |
Black Sabbath's debut followed closely by Paranoid. I also like Headless Cross despite Ozzie's absence
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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lucas
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 14:48 |
So many votes for 'born again' -> never heard it, must be good ?
I always thought Ozzy-era beats all following ones. I admit that I was totally amazed by the 'live evil' though. Much less by the studio Dio-era albums.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 15:40 |
lucas wrote:
So many votes for 'born again' -> never heard it, must be good ?
I always thought Ozzy-era beats all following ones. I admit that I was totally amazed by the 'live evil' though. Much less by the studio Dio-era albums.
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No, it's not a good record. It's just that the poll allows multiple votes and somebody fooled around voting multiple times Born Again.
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J-Man
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:01 |
Don't have a good amount of these, so no vote from me
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 14 2010 at 16:05 |
J-Man wrote:
Don't have a good amount of these, so no vote from me  |
Do you have Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Paranoid and Black Sabbath?
Edited by The Quiet One - February 14 2010 at 16:06
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lucas
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Posted: February 15 2010 at 03:16 |
The Quiet One wrote:
lucas wrote:
So many votes for 'born again' -> never heard it, must be good ?
I always thought Ozzy-era beats all following ones. I admit that I was totally amazed by the 'live evil' though. Much less by the studio Dio-era albums.
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No, it's not a good record. It's just that the poll allows multiple votes and somebody fooled around voting multiple times Born Again. |
Thanks for clarifying, Pablo. Phew, I was ready to go and buy this record today...
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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cstack3
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Posted: February 15 2010 at 23:23 |
With Ozzie? "Vol. 4"
With Dio? "Heaven and Hell" - I thought that the band took a HUGE step forward, musically, with H&H! I often play these tunes to warm up, and go "Wot the hell happened to Iommi on this LP??"
His technique & lead playing SOARS on H&H! Mind you, I love the other stuff, too, but...I've read reviews that said this was the "best heavy metal album ever made," and I am inclined to support that view.
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FusionKing
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 09:24 |
Hey guys, does anyone recognise who is singing on the final track on Never Say Die?, it's called 'Swinging The Chain', it doesn't sound like Ozzy or Bill Ward so who the hell is it?
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Raff
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 12:21 |
FusionKing wrote:
Hey guys, does anyone recognise who is singing on the final track on Never Say Die?, it's called 'Swinging The Chain', it doesn't sound like Ozzy or Bill Ward so who the hell is it?  |
On the Wikipedia entry for the album, it says it's Bill Ward, and so it does on the band's website. Therefore, we have to assume it was really him.
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Matthew T
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 13:08 |
Paranoid.................I liked em' with Ozzy
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FusionKing
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Posted: February 17 2010 at 19:45 |
 Cheers. In that case Bill Ward actually has a far better voice than I had assumed!
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TODDLER
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Posted: February 18 2010 at 12:32 |
That first Sabbath album which I first heard upon it's release gave a very strange vibe to all kids everywhere. Many kids in high school 1971 were interested in the occult side that is presented on the album. Every kid in the school was calling it hard rock. It's really strange to think of Sabbath not only in that term but, how the music grew on fans of rock as they entered the music scene. They were for many years classified as a dark band and based on a self indulgent mood swing, people would wait for a moment in time to play their records. Usually on a dark and windy night a friend would put on the first album. I kind of got the impression that hippies disregarded them as a leftover of something or the other. So it was mostly kids from my age group that indulged.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:46 |
I can't believe 'Born Again' has so many votes, yet so little written endorsement within the thread; personally, apart from a couple of decent tracks, to me, it represents a real nadir in Sabbath's history (although maybe not so much as Technical Ecstacy'  )
Favorites for me?
1 - Sabotage
2 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
3 - Heaven & Hell
4 - Masters Of Reality
...plus an honourable mention for 'Live At Last'; never an official album, I understand (released by NEMS without the band's consent), but shows them at their live peak
Edited by Jim Garten - February 19 2010 at 07:46
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Raff
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 07:52 |
Jim Garten wrote:
I can't believe 'Born Again' has so many votes, yet so little written endorsement within the thread; personally, apart from a couple of decent tracks, to me, it represents a real nadir in Sabbath's history (although maybe not so much as Technical Ecstacy' )
Favorites for me?
1 - Sabotage
2 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
3 - Heaven & Hell
4 - Masters Of Reality
...plus an honourable mention for 'Live At Last'; never an official album, I understand (released by NEMS without the band's consent), but shows them at their live peak
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Great to see that we share almost the same tastes  ! As regards Born Again, I remember I used to like it a lot when it came out - but then, I was much younger, and my tastes were not fully developed. However, as you said, there are a couple of decent tracks on the album, or possibly three. Personally, I like "Trashed", "Disturbing the Priest" and the title-track.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 09:12 |
Raff wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
I can't believe 'Born Again' has so many votes, yet so little written endorsement within the thread; personally, apart from a couple of decent tracks, to me, it represents a real nadir in Sabbath's history (although maybe not so much as Technical Ecstacy' )
Favorites for me?
1 - Sabotage
2 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
3 - Heaven & Hell
4 - Masters Of Reality
...plus an honourable mention for 'Live At Last'; never an official album, I understand (released by NEMS without the band's consent), but shows them at their live peak
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Great to see that we share almost the same tastes ! As regards Born Again, I remember I used to like it a lot when it came out - but then, I was much younger, and my tastes were not fully developed. However, as you said, there are a couple of decent tracks on the album, or possibly three. Personally, I like "Trashed", "Disturbing the Priest" and the title-track.
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Like I said to Lucas, this poll allows multiple votes so there must have been someone funny to vote multiple times to Born Again.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 11:19 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Cristi
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 12:19 |
I've voted for Vol 4.
Not ashamed to admit I like Technical Ecstasy a lot though. yes, it's their least heavy album, but to me the album is almost flawless - with the exception of the ballad She's Gone, which I find rather annoying and press the skip botton.
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