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Posted: December 04 2009 at 03:50
Windhawk wrote:
Checking out their MySpace samples now - think psych ought to have a first dibs on this one. I can see the crossover references, to some extent the kraut as well, but my main impression is psych on the stuff streaming there. So I'll send them over to the psych team for starters :-)
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Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:22
DamoXt7942 wrote:
Windhawk wrote:
Checking out their MySpace samples now - think psych ought to have a first dibs on this one. I can see the crossover references, to some extent the kraut as well, but my main impression is psych on the stuff streaming there. So I'll send them over to the psych team for starters :-)
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Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:43
Please note that before 1997, the Flaming Lips released at least 6 full length albums that have very little to no prog aspects to them. Since 1997, they've released 5 albums, 4 of which have a lot of progressive aspects.
Most of their albums are undoubtedly NOT PROG.
I hope we keep that in mind when considering them for addition to a main subgenre here.
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Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:58
stonebeard wrote:
Please note that before 1997, the Flaming Lips released at least 6 full length albums that have very little to no prog aspects to them. Since 1997, they've released 5 albums, 4 of which have a lot of progressive aspects.
Most of their albums are undoubtedly NOT PROG.
I hope we keep that in mind when considering them for addition to a main subgenre here.
Well, there's the usual one album and they should be in rule to consider as well. And we have a fair few bands here most known for their non-prog albums, and arguably with an overweight of those in their discography too.
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 20:44
Sorry for our belated judgment and action but I think very very hard to classify them... Sooner I'll listen to Embryonic so let me take time for consideration.
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Posted: January 20 2010 at 00:56
Now both of my laptops (office- and home- ) are in hospital , therefore I'll carry on after celebrating their recovery.
I've listened to Embryonic and felt very Kraut-ish taste. One of my favourite albums in 2009/2010. And simultaneously they are under evals by Prog-Related (Admin) Team.
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Posted: January 22 2010 at 01:36
The Flaming Lips definitely deserve a place on Progarchives. After all, Radiohead is here, and Radiohead's first few albums (Pablo Honey and The Bends) were not prog. The Flaming Lips' "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots," "At War with the Mystics," and "Embryonic" are all prog-related crossover albums, in the very best sense. (And "The Soft Bulletin" is a brilliant album in "The Bends" vein - a collection of great tunes that sound best in the context of the album.)
I'd also love to see Spacemen 3 and Spiritualized on this site.
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Posted: January 22 2010 at 01:44
2 things I forgot to mention: their album "Zaireeka" would also qualify as prog crossover; secondly, the Flaming Lips just released a version of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon."
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:25
Yeah, I know - easy credit for Embryonic .. certainly a prog album with krautrock leanings .. we have to take time to listen to the other stuff ... not a desired candiate as for the time-consuming aspect
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:32
I'm slowly taking a journey back to FL's earlier outputs. Based so far on the Soft Bulletin - Embryonic interval, I couldn't really agree to the idea that FL are a prog band. Embryonic has a lot of things that could be credited under prog, then again I'm not a supporter of the "one prog album and they're in" train of thought (for bands with a consistent trail of non-prog works, of course).
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 07:52
harmonium.ro wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
...I'm not a supporter of the "one prog album and they're in" train of thought (for bands with a consistent trail of non-prog works, of course).
I've noticed this as a general trend, and it feels wrong to me This was supposed to be the most inclusive archive for it's niche...
I agree with you, but unfortunately the 'whole discography' policy works against the inclusion of bands or artists that have released only one prog album - at least nowadays. In the past, the criteria were much looser, and this is why there are some entries in the database that often raise people's eyebrows. Some of us Collabs have suggested implementing a 'one-album' category for such cases, but to no avail.
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Posted: February 28 2010 at 08:08
Raff wrote:
harmonium.ro wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
...I'm not a supporter of the "one prog album and they're in" train of thought (for bands with a consistent trail of non-prog works, of course).
I've noticed this as a general trend, and it feels wrong to me This was supposed to be the most inclusive archive for it's niche...
I agree with you, but unfortunately the 'whole discography' policy works against the inclusion of bands or artists that have released only one prog album - at least nowadays. In the past, the criteria were much looser, and this is why there are some entries in the database that often raise people's eyebrows. Some of us Collabs have suggested implementing a 'one-album' category for such cases, but to no avail.
I agree it's a thing of policy. I'd love myself to focus on how prog-oriented music suddenly shows itself in an artist's work and conception, but in this case, two major questions - "what am I to say of the artist's other input" (given that they're not prog) and "what am I to say about the artist himself, from a prog point of view" (given that making something prog or prog-like could many times be a simple "happening") - seem to burden the merit given to just a particular case of prog-making.
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Posted: April 25 2010 at 15:18
I've just read that people are picking on FL because they covered Pink Floyd. So if they are discredited in the press, that must surely mean they've turned in the "right" direction
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Windhawk wrote:
, therefore I'll carry on after celebrating their recovery. 
This was supposed to be the most inclusive archive for it's niche...
