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The Sleepwalker
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Joined: February 03 2009
Location: The Netherlands
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Points: 15141
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 13:20 |
jampa17 wrote:
Just want to ask... which is the so unique thing about Porcupine Tree...??? they are a plain alternative band with long songs with little progressive elements.. it's not better than Oceansize... not even close... I know they are catchy and that's why they have a lot of fans... but is not unique for that... or am I wrong...??? |
I agree with you that I don't think their sound is as unique as many other bands, but it's much more than plain alt rock. They combine pop, metal, trip-hop, psychedelica, electronic and lots of other genres all in one. So their sound is pretty "innovative" actually.
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jampa17
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2009
Location: Guatemala
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Points: 6802
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 16:45 |
floydispink wrote:
jampa17 wrote:
Just want to ask... which is the so unique thing about Porcupine Tree...??? they are a plain alternative band with long songs with little progressive elements.. it's not better than Oceansize... not even close... I know they are catchy and that's why they have a lot of fans... but is not unique for that... or am I wrong...??? |
I agree with you that I don't think their sound is as unique as many other bands, but it's much more than plain alt rock. They combine pop, metal, trip-hop, psychedelica, electronic and lots of other genres all in one. So their sound is pretty "innovative" actually. |
mmm... ok... I think ambience, psychodelic and space can be put in pop and metal, not that much, so I agree theyr'e like Alternative-rock-pop band... sorry but I don't hear much more... I don't say theyr'e bad, but I don't see them like something unique... don't you think is kind of a light tool...???
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Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 17:17 |
Neurosis Devin Townsend Maudlin Of The Well The Mars Volta Tool Unexpect Death Isis Rolo Tomassi Meshuggah
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 17:47 |
And how the bloody has anyone NOT mentioned Neurosis yet? They are, alongside a few others maybe, THE most innovative band in metal, and I dare anyone to disagree with me.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Rocktopus
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Joined: March 02 2006
Location: Norway
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Points: 4202
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 18:01 |
These all came up with something rather unique, I think:
Non Credo
Secret Chiefs 3
Kayo Dot
Guapo Ween Boredoms Radiohead Tortoise Faun Fables Volapük
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Qboyy007
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Joined: September 21 2009
Location: SoCal
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Points: 186
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Posted: November 16 2009 at 21:36 |
The Pessimist wrote:
And how the bloody has anyone NOT mentioned Neurosis yet? They are, alongside a few others maybe, THE most innovative band in metal, and I dare anyone to disagree with me.
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No one dare insult the fathers of post-metal.
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
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Points: 11420
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 06:37 |
Qboyy007 wrote:
The Pessimist wrote:
And how the bloody has anyone NOT mentioned Neurosis yet? They are, alongside a few others maybe, THE most innovative band in metal, and I dare anyone to disagree with me.
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No one dare insult the fathers of post-metal. |
Never even heard 'em but it's clear they chose their name with considerable prescience. (You are what you eat etc)
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 11:21 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
Qboyy007 wrote:
The Pessimist wrote:
And how the bloody has anyone NOT mentioned Neurosis yet? They are, alongside a few others maybe, THE most innovative band in metal, and I dare anyone to disagree with me.
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No one dare insult the fathers of post-metal. |
Never even heard 'em but it's clear they chose their name with considerable prescience. (You are what you eat etc)
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They've knocked down more boundries than any other 90s metal band, that's for sure. You should check them out if you want to find something very dark and very original.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer
Joined: November 18 2007
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Points: 4900
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 11:31 |
The Pessimist wrote:
And how the bloody has anyone NOT mentioned Neurosis yet?
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Because not everybody worships the devil like you do.
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 11:38 |
At least I don't worship John Lennon You are right though, Neurosis are the devil.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Points: 28057
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Posted: November 17 2009 at 11:45 |
I'd like to see Pain of Salvation somewhere in there. Of course, not much of what they do is totally original, but the funk-thrash-metal of Entropia and whatever you'd call BE are fairly original. Plus I'd personally give them props for attempting depth and unparalleled intimacy in their music, and mostly succeeding.
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