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The Quiet One
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Topic: ''Showing TOP 25 only'' Posted: October 17 2009 at 22:46 |
Don't want to sound harsh, but this recent feature that appears in each profile for the reviews list is kind of annoying and useless, don't you think?
Unless it has a certain criteria that chooses the "TOP 25 Reviews of someone" which I doubt, this seems rather pointless and annoying since you have to press each time ''show all list'' everytime.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 17 2009 at 22:50 |
I agree, sorting the highest rated 25 on a separate page is completely pointless and irritating, but then again so is sorting non-collab reviews on a separate page, but that doesn't seem to be changing any time soon either.
At first I assumed it was to save bandwidth, but text is tiny, and almost everybody is just going to reload the page to get the full list anyway, so I'm confused.
Edited by Henry Plainview - October 17 2009 at 22:58
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 17 2009 at 22:55 |
I completely agree guys. If it were to improve loading speed or something perhaps, but that page loads pretty fast anyway. What could possibly be the benefit of this? I think we should go back to showing all reviews.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 01:51 |
Considering these profiles, that have 500+ reviews, you can save 270KB, where what you'll get will have 230KB (PHILIPPE's page), but profiles with so many reviews are rare.
And you can't do this hiding feature with other sorting styles, because if you hit "chronological", you'll get full review list, no matter what. Isn't there a way how to do this with javascript, so it will load once you get on page, but won't show, until button pressed. But then it will show without loading.
It looks like promising upgrade (something is going on, there are tries to improve, so it's good thing), but still in its infancy and has its flaws This is why we're here, to feedback
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 02:16 |
Even if it does save a whole 270kb, everyone is going to reload the page to get the rest of the reviews, which completely negates any savings.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 02:49 |
Too much text on a page is bad for search engine rankings.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 02:53 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Too much text on a page is bad for search engine rankings. |
Why would it matter what a search engine thinks of your collab page?
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 03:22 |
PA isn't the top ranked website for prog rock just because of its quality content - it's also because all the pages are optimized for search engines, including the collabs pages.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 13:37 |
If the real purpose of this function is to save banwidth or whatever it's called(not an expert), then why name it TOP 25? It's pretty much misleading.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 13:48 |
The Quiet One wrote:
If the real purpose of this function is to save banwidth or whatever it's called(not an expert), then why name it TOP 25? It's pretty much misleading.
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Well, I suppose it's because default setting is to show ratings. Maybe next step will be another option of sorting, let's say: choose your favourite top 25 reviews and we'll show them here. And strictly matter of words, top can mean that these reviews are "on top", but OK, everyone thinks that top 25 = best 25. Including me.
And don't confuse me with devils advocate, all I'm saying are facts and my thoughts, not my preferences.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:01 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
PA isn't the top ranked website for prog rock just because of its quality content - it's also because all the pages are optimized for search engines, including the collabs pages.
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It was number one before the change, and how would the collab pages affect our ranking at all?
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:11 |
Rankings are always changing - M@x keeps constantly optimizing all the pages and has been for several years ... without that it wouldn't have become the #1. Google is also always modifying its ranking algorithm ...
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:31 |
I've read that Google has just decided to drop the Google Page Rank facility completely. What does that mean and how does it affect PA?
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:37 |
^ where did you read this? AFAIK they only removed the PageRank distribution statistic from the web master tools.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:39 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Rankings are always changing - M@x keeps constantly optimizing all the pages and has been for several years ... without that it wouldn't have become the #1. Google is also always modifying its ranking algorithm ...
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But again, what do the collab pages have to do with anything? People aren't going to be searching to see if someone named Sean Trane happened to review Foxtrot, they're going to search for Foxtrot to get our reviews page.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: October 18 2009 at 15:42 |
^ true, but the pages all link to each other. Collabs pages get a few inbound links, too ... according to the toolbar Sean Trane's page has a PageRank of 4. I think it's good ranking wise to give that page direct links to the top 25 albums only - that way more of the inbound links' rank is passed to more important pages than the individual reviews (like back to the start page).
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