Who's the brain behind The Beatles?

More Clear:

n the book Adorno by Stefan Mueller-Doohm, I found this quote on page 420:
Adorno was keen to distinguish the Beatles from advanced modernity, whose condition could be measured by the progress of avant-garde art.
/quote Adorno:/ "What can be urged against the Beatles is simply that what these people have to offer is something that is retarded in terms of it's own objective content. It can be shown that the means of expression that are employed and preserved here are in reality no more than traditional techniques in a degraded form."
(Diskussion in the magazine Akzente, issue Summer 1965).

http://www.tinhouse.com/mag/back_issues/archive/issues/issue_10/feature.html

Good reading i enjoy the perspective.

Sacred 22 wrote: None of the above listed. Theodor W. Adorno was the brains behind the 'Beatles' as he held the rights to the music and eventually his estate sold those rights to Michael Jackson.   Adorno a classical musician wrote their music and it was all filtered down through Paul who could not read a note of music by the way. In fact the only half way real musician in the band was George Harrison. John was a poet who could strum a few chords and Ringo a hack drummer at best. George often wondered why they never wanted to use his songs. Oh and as an aside, Paul ended up being Knighted, and you don't get Knighted unless you have done as you were told and made your masters proud. The Beatles were introduced to the public as a means to spread youth culture which led to the spreading of the 'New Age' culture and this was all geared to setting up a nylistic culture that is all to present today. It's called divide and conquer but this gets into a whole different 'Pandora's Box' if you will. Things are not what they seem.

Ya, well, I'll go with Lennon anyway.

Dean wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: None of the above listed. Theodor W. Adorno was the brains behind the 'Beatles' as he held the rights to the music and eventually his estate sold those rights to Michael Jackson.   Sacred 22 wrote: Do you realize that Adorno held the right to the Beatles music?   Proof?   In 1965 Northern Songs was made into a public company with the Beatles owning 33% of the shares, Dick James and Charles Silver 37.5%, Epstein 7.5% and the rest traded on the London Stock Exchange. In 1969 James & Silver along with several of the smaller stock holders sold their shares to Lew Grade's ATV Music, realising that they could not gain control of Northern Songs Lennon & McCartney sold ATV their shares too. ATV owned Northern Songs until 1985 when the whole company was bought by Michael Jackson for a reported $47M ... source Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Songs)   ..so what proof do you have that Theodor W. Adorno's estate held the rights to The Beatles Music? Was he part of, or connected to, Lew Grade's Associated TeleVision empire? Highly improbable without proof.

Maybe Adorno was replaced with an android and he bought the shares?

Sacred 22 wrote: Here is something to read about it   http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

Edited by Dean - September 12 2009 at 20:36

Sacred 22 wrote: Here is something to read about it   http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

Yes i read  that in other forum

I know that you going to cite your "source".

 I'll illuminate you. It's very simple. *Everyone* who drags Adorno into this mess turns out to be drawing on Coleman and on Coleman alone. Each of them is a mythomaniac and adds their own little something to the brew, just some little detail that gives the story a personal touch. But Coleman is a crook. In reality, no one could be more distanced from conspiracy and more active in the other end of the spectrum than Adorno, if you look at his actual work. This is why he is now being persecuted, i suppose, plus, it is convenient to pick someone who died decades ago and can't defend themselves. Watt is obviously part of some project with the mission to to delude people and deprive them of any sense of culture and belonging. People like me are not easy to mislead; I have strong cultural roots, and I have actively participated in forming those roots. But most younger U.S. people are easy targets, for a large number of reasons.

^ it's actually dafter than that - Coleman claims that Adorno wrote the music for all the British Invasion artists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Invasion_Artists

it reminds a bit of the Moon Landing theory (except for Coleman's homophobic quasi-religious agenda) which is so uninformed of the way physics, science and photography work that it's not even pushed by most theorists anymore

Coleman is a deeply angry, misinformed crusader who believes people don't actually do anything of freewill - put another way, that any influence on society is planned, and with malicious intent.  What he fails to realize is that anyone and anything may have an affect on any other thing.   That's just how it works, and his very article is proof of that.  You go, Mr. Coleman, you're proving that individuals can impact others simply by expressing themself.  Case in point; the Beatles.  Wake up and smell the coffee, and then move on with your life.









Edited by Atavachron - September 12 2009 at 22:02

rogerthat wrote: Atavachron wrote: You go, Mr. Coleman, you're proving that individuals can impact others simply by expressing themself.  Case in point; the Beatles.  Wake up and smell the coffee, and then move on with your life.  I think it's hard for some people to accept the possibility of human talent reaching out to so many people.  They think they have seen through a conspiracy to mass influence people when in reality they simply lack faith in the boundless potential of human endeavour

exactly

rogerthat wrote: I have met people who are genuinely indifferent to the Beatles and they are not the ones wasting time reading and trumpeting conspiracy theories, much less making them up, because they couldn't care less either way. Ergo, I have to conclude that the likes of Coleman are deeply resentful of talented bands like Beatles.

interesting idea