Who's the brain behind The Beatles?

McCartney has perpetrated this "untrained" thing forever, but Blackbird is a combo of Travis picking and the entry level classical piece Bouree by Bach. Do you honestly think a classically trained musician would ever have written "Love Me Do"?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Sacred 22 wrote: Here is a quote from John Lennon in his 1980 Playboy magazine interview, which can easily be found on the net. Incidently, talking about so called 'tin foil heads', both he and Yoko would qualify when you consider some of what they said in the interview regarding LSD, society, woman and children. However, that is another story. I really get the feeling that Lennon was really holding back from telling the real story about the Beatles in this interview and his constant bashing of the band is odd to say the least. He was killed shortly after the interview. Anyway, here is the quote:   The Illuminati and the Jewish Cabal probably co-conspired to have him killed effectively keeping the Beatles true nature secret and cementing their power over the world.

Billy was the 8th Beatle. Get hip to the groove, man.

Macca by far

Matthew T wrote: I am going for Brian Epstein.........not on the list. He got them em' going

Dean wrote: SentimentalMercenary wrote: I've got to side with Sacred 22. I do not think he has that much explaining to do to support his case. On the other hand, those who still think that the Beatles were 'geniuses' still have a missing link to account for. Step A : Four musically illiterate amateurs undertake to form a band. Step B : (     ) Step C : Produce musical masterpieces after another?   Had this happened here and there throughout the history of music, I could think differently and accept that there might not need to be a Step B. Until then, I remain a conspiracy theorist too! You don't need a Step B - anybody who can make a noise on an instrument can create music, being musically illiterate does not mean they couldn't play (two years working in Hamburg clubs and being hired as Tony Sheridan's backing band tends to suggest that even if they were unable to read music, they could certainly play it - incidentally, McCartney had piano lessons, so could read music, but probably not sight-read - he just preferred to play by ear). Once you can play then composition is simply a case of following the templates you've learnt by playing other peoples music.

All this conspiracy thing is soooo ridiculous. step B??!?! wtf? they didn't produced one masterpiece after another since the beggining, they clearly evolved from album to album, although very quickly. And not reading music doesn't mean they couldn't write songs or think of great and clever arrangements, plus all their music wasn't complex, but it was interesting and original. They might have been illiterate amateurs, but they listened to a lot music, learned very quickly, had good ears, great ideas and an open mind, that's all they needed to produce those masterpieces. Doesn't this makes much more sense?

Not recommending anything here, just stating the facts, as I understand them:

Edited by jammun - September 08 2009 at 21:30

So the fact that few people accept it makes it true?  If that's the case, then I'm the greatest guitar player in the history of the world! 

Sacred 22 wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: Macca is the brain, and more evident after the death of Epstein.   BTW Sacred 22 i have read the Estulin interview, i do not believe anything about that he's saying about the Beatles.   And i think that Adorno have no time to "compose" the music of the Beatles between 1967-69, becuase he was doing other things, like writing his Aestetic Teory for example.    Of course, I would be concerned if the majority of people could see thru it. That would just be kookie.   What would the point be????? It's like what Hitler said, he said, "if you are going to sell a lie make sure it's a big one otherwise no one will believe it"

but that's just the start of all the untenable things that would have to have happened according to the current theory being posited, which is that Adorno 'funneled' the music through Paul who then presented it to Martin and the Boys to turn into hits (John's songs too?  Really?  'I Am the Walrus', 'Come Together', 'Hey Bulldog', 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' ..hmm) creating the biggest media money-maker since the Three Stooges as a way to fund, what, some secret post-Socialist Intellectualism on the world as a way to influence people to...  I'm just making this up as I go, someone stop me...



 

By the way, I think the brain in The Beatles was Macca by far, all of them were great musicians and songwriters IMO, but Paul was allways most involved in the songwriting and arrangements of the songs, especially in some of their greatest albums when the other weren't much into them. Of course George Martin was a big influence on them too, that's why he's the fifth Beatle, but he didn't write the songs.