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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 07:27
yes!!!                      ofcours one of the biggest  band man!if u know that frank borneman(member of ELOY band)listen to yes and king crimson!                ian anderson  cooperated with kitaro  thats one of the best soft prog rock albums:)tnx
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 07:50
Ghost, please bump you Khoroshev point.  I don't want to see it get lost.  Myself, I gotta go, gotta sign off.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 11:42
I really enjoyed Yes's debut album. I'm impressed with how they put their own spin on the cover songs on there. I think I may go back and give it another listen soon. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2009 at 21:53
I don't know who apported more to the music between Khoroshev and Moraz, but I definitly like mor Relayer (or more exactly, The Gates of Delirium) than anything from the Khoroshev albums. No point of comparison.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 01:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:18
If you take the point of the Moraz/Khoroshev post literally, then, of course, Khoroshev did contribute more, as he was with the band longer.

As regards quality, it is not really a fair comparison, certainly on Khoroshev. He joined the band when they were really struggling to find a new voice and direction for themselves in the '90s, and I think he did a great job with them. The Ladder is, in particular, a mighty fine example of the quality latter day Yes could perform when they put their minds to it. I remember seeing Khoroshev with them twice - once in Birmingham and once in Cardiff. At the Cardiff show, his solo on Awaken was truly awe inspiring.

However, given that Relayer is one of the finest albums in the history of prog, and an essential part of symphonic prog history, you couldn't really say it's a true choice, could you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:22
I much prefer The Ladder to Relayer, but Relayer is probably the Yes album that I like the least, so that probably has something to do with it.  Relayer is Yes' heavy metal album. LOL   I have actually liked Relayer a little more with my most recent listens to it, but I still can't get past the low quality sound (IMO) on the guitar/keyboards. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 11:07
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I much prefer The Ladder to Relayer, but Relayer is probably the Yes album that I like the least, so that probably has something to do with it.  Relayer is Yes' heavy metal album. LOL   I have actually liked Relayer a little more with my most recent listens to it, but I still can't get past the low quality sound (IMO) on the guitar/keyboards. 
  I wouldn't say it was a heavy metal album...it's much too free form and creative for that. It has heavy metal tones, but jazz playing...it's one of their weirdest albums, and after the airy feel of much of Tales it's kind of a relief. I don't know what you mean by "low quality sound."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 11:25
Anyone been to a GIG with the Yes setup on tour :
With DB on vocal's - does it work out ??
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 18:00
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Anyone been to a GIG with the Yes setup on tour :
With DB on vocal's - does it work out ??

 

 


EDIT:
Here's a review someone posted about one of the shows...

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60022

And here's J-Man's (which I was talking about!)

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60078

And another:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59241


And another!
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53661


Enjoy!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 19:37
Originally posted by Jozef Jozef wrote:

I really enjoyed Yes's debut album. I'm impressed with how they put their own spin on the cover songs on there. I think I may go back and give it another listen soon. 


I might give that a 5 star review once I get to it. It's safe to say IMO that it is the best debut album ever.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:12
There are some songs I like in their first album (and second, which sounds kind of similar to me), and indeed the style in general of the album can be pleasant if I'm in the mood, but compared to what came later, it gets overshadowed. I was listening to the beatles Every Little Thing a few days ago, and comparing it to Yes's version, I can see how great this cover was: it is definitly the same song, all way round, but played in such a way that The Beatles surely would never have dreamed of (and who knows if they approved?). Still, the one song that I really love on that album is Harold Land, very beautiful vocals indeed. How about discussing each Yes album in order from here on? If there's nothing more to add about the debut, what would you think about the Time and a Word album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:17
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

There are some songs I like in their first album (and second, which sounds kind of similar to me), and indeed the style in general of the album can be pleasant if I'm in the mood, but compared to what came later, it gets overshadowed. I was listening to the beatles Every Little Thing a few days ago, and comparing it to Yes's version, I can see how great this cover was: it is definitly the same song, all way round, but played in such a way that The Beatles surely would never have dreamed of (and who knows if they approved?). Still, the one song that I really love on that album is Harold Land, very beautiful vocals indeed. How about discussing each Yes album in order from here on? If there's nothing more to add about the debut, what would you think about the Time and a Word album?


I love the tracks Time And A Word and No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Needed, but they are the only two tracks I've heard.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:22
Time and a Word is truly great, 4 stars, period.

The debut is good, 3 solid stars.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:22
By the way, I've seen the new line-up live (unfotunatly it's the only Yes concert I've ever seen, and it's most unlikely I'll ever get a chance to see them with Jon and Wakeman, now that their health doesn't seem to be up to a whole tour again, I really doubt they'll ever choose Mexico as a country for a one special occasion, which seems to be the only way they'll ever play together live again). However, I thought Benoit did a very good job singing, perhaps he got a bit of trouble with the very highest notes. Yet, I was more troubled about his not having the very special touch of Jon's voice, some delicate beauty not easy to describe, specially since their voices are indeed very similar. I found his singing more enjoyable when it became aparent he wasn't trying too hard to soun like Jon, but rather just singing as himself. If Yes does record somethin with Benoit, I guess we might hear what he really is capable of, however I guess I'd rather have a new Yes album with Jon than with Benoit (I don't think their would be room for both of them in the same album, specially given the similarity in their voices).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:25
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Indeed - Benoit's voice lacks in the emotion...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:26
From Time and a Word the song I like the most is... Time and a Word. However, I like it much more in the Keys to Ascension album. Wakeman's piano work there is very beautiful. However do you think the orchestration worked out in this album?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2009 at 22:29
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

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Indeed - Benoit's voice lacks in the emotion...


Yeah, I guess it's the emotion. Or perhaps it's rather the "something missing" that gives the emotion and not the emotion itsel... I don't know if I'm making any sense at all, I can't quiet explain my perception.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2009 at 00:39
I had the privilege of attending my first yes concert in July and it was fantastic! In response to Benoit lacking emotion, i honestly couldn't tell given this was my first attendance and I 've never seen Jon Anderson live. Steve Howe was the best guitarist I have ever seen, just phenomenal.Squire was the best bassist, then again I've never seen Rush or Marcus Miller but Squire's tone and lines man, i was in heaven. Alan White was very disappointing, I can see why alot of Yes fan's don't give him much credit. He can certainly play drums but going on after Carl Palmer well that's a tough act to follow. Olive Wakemen was also a let down, Why didn't they ask Geoffrey Downes to do it, he's more than capable.

Over all it was a great performance and meant alot to me given i'm a young yes fan who wasn't able to see them in the hayday.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2009 at 00:41
Originally posted by Torqua Torqua wrote:

I had the privilege of attending my first yes concert in July and it was fantastic! In response to Benoit lacking emotion, i honestly couldn't tell given this was my first attendance and I 've never seen Jon Anderson live. Steve Howe was the best guitarist I have ever seen, just phenomenal.Squire was the best bassist, then again I've never seen Rush or Marcus Miller but Squire's tone and lines man, i was in heaven. Alan White was very disappointing, I can see why alot of Yes fan's don't give him much credit. He can certainly play drums but going on after Carl Palmer well that's a tough act to follow. Olive Wakemen was also a let down, Why didn't they ask Geoffrey Downes to do it, he's more than capable. Over all it was a great performance and meant alot to me given i'm a young yes fan who wasn't able to see them in the hayday.




Sounds like you enjoyed it, and I hope you did


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