Cem Karaca (Turkish progressive master)

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   One more Turkish act has been added this weekend though - Siddhartha. Don't know if that outfit has been mentioned somewhere in this thread already.

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Windhawk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401	Posted: April 19 2009 at 05:29
	One more Turkish act has been added this weekend though - Siddhartha. Don't know if that outfit has been mentioned somewhere in this thread already.
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npjnpj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720	Posted: April 20 2009 at 08:35
	I find this thread very interesting (and entertaining). Not whether the artist in question is added, but whether the collaborators are going to cave under the pressure or not.

Dervisan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2009 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 108	Posted: May 09 2009 at 00:58
	bilek, it s for you only.. ankara 77 "sevdan beni" and please tell them in anatolian prog psyc rock they didnt play flute(only few songs have this) because we have got "saz, bağlama, ıklığ, kemane"... it seems strange for them but it s our tradation we cant live with their tradation, and they couldnt too.. Cem Karaca - Dervisan / Sevdan Beni live ankara 1977 http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/bZBjz-nB/cem-karaca-dervisan-06-sevdan-benimp3/ cem karaca - Dervisan / Kavga live ankara 1977 http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/twSRqqfs/05-kavgamp3/ Cen Karaca - Dervisan / Niyazi live ankara 1977 http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/VnOUjqnO/09-niyazimp3/ Cem Karaca - Moğollar / Obur Dünya live (with Hüseyin Sultanoğlu's wonderful drum solo) http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/vKjne7y1/cem-karaca-mogollar-obur-dnya-trt/ bye for now.... Edited by Dervisan - May 23 2009 at 22:18
	Turkish (Anatolian) Progressive Psychedelic Ethnical Rock

geraldpsyche Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: April 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7	Posted: August 11 2009 at 06:40
	I understand how the apreciation towards Cem Kara won't be easy while at the same time he is also one of the most powerful voices of the Turkish rock scene. But the music styles you will find him singing however will range very much, from severe mellowness chanson until powerful progressive song-based rock music. Especially the music after his return to Turkey I don't think will appeal much to anyone over here. But he should not be under-estimated. His first records were surely progressive, in a rock-sense, and Safinaz is symphonic piece comparable to a more rocky Ange or so. It remains rock music. Especially the period with Mogollar should appeal to collectors. Unfortunately the best recordings from his symphonic period never made it to disk. I heard an unofficial live recording around Safinaz, which had incredible progressive music solos on organ which should amaze any progressive rock lover. I once showed it to a music lover, and he was convinced this must have been an English progressive rock band that was playing. The best starter I think is the compilation Ölumsuzler from which you can hear a few samples on http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=MU940401WA696 This album has all the tracks with strong rather progressive arrangements. I also very much like his German rock album which has very strong lyrics in German.

Bilek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484	Posted: August 13 2009 at 05:48
	You provided in a nutshell all positive aspects of Cem Karaca's music, which I couldn't manage even if I wrote pages! Thanks... Unfortunately, unofficial recordings are not admitted into progarchives discographies, so apparently not regarded while evaluating... Being a Turk, I myself would like to get hold of such recordings ... They simply don't pop up so often. As for his collaboration with Mogollar, now that the band is added (into folk-prog), I am planning to add their 3 singles, all of which are credited collectively. Unfortunately, the other recordings they made together are only released in Karaca's compilation albums afterwards, so there's no way I could fit them into Mogollar's discography.
	Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)

geraldpsyche Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: April 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7	Posted: August 13 2009 at 12:36
	good idea about adding Siddharta too. Both albums are interesting, but very different. But there are more psychedelic/progressive Turkish bands of today : Replykas and perhaps REplikas are I think the most esential new Turkish bands not to miss. But also Hayvanlar Alemi is very interesting even when they didn't have any official releases yet. From the 70s easily overlooked is 21.Peron. http://progressive.homestead.com/21PERON.html

Bilek Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: July 05 2005 Location: Turkey Status: Offline Points: 1484	Posted: August 14 2009 at 01:15
	I have 21. Peron's album, but I don't hear much prog in it (then again, I don't hear it much anyway!)I had the impression that first the "giant" names should have been introduced into the archives, and I was successful in Mogollar and Erkin Koray, but sadly no conclusion in Cem Karaca (people usually get stuck in the shell and just can't go deep into the essence), and I failed to follow up Baris Manco's case after being found not so suitable by eclectic prog team. These are the "tree big ones" of the Turkish (Anatolian) Rock scene (on solo artist level) and the most prominent band so far. Honestly, even I don't find much prog characteristics in other artists' and bands' works, even if sometimes they did a couple of very good prog songs, or even a full blown prog album or two (Üç Hürel and Bunalim as bands, and Edip Akbayram, Selda, Ersen, Fikret Kizilok etc. as artists) And not being a fan of "recent" works (i.e. anything after mid-eighties, when Turkey is concerned), I'd rather see these "vintage" musicians in the database than newer acts. (honestly, I haven't listened a single note from Replikas yet, but I heard some samples from Siddharta, and interestingly I was among the team which approved their addition... As for the other relatively new Turkish band -Nekropsi-, I have known them for a long time, and though I like their music, they're too metal for my taste )
	Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)