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    Posted: July 09 2009 at 06:10
Evening proggers

I'm 15, and I've been playing piano for around 6 years now.

I first owned a digital piano, then a Keyboard, and now I want to move onto a synth or moog.

I'm looking for something that isn't over the top expensive, but a good begginer's synth.

Thanks for all your help!
(Oh - Keyboard size isn't an issue)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2009 at 08:24
Moogs, old or new, are going to be very expensive.

I think your best bet is to look at vintage synths.  There are a lot of digital synths that can create analog style sounds (which I'm assuming you like being a prog fan and all.)

This is a great website to get information:  www.vintagesynth.com  I would check eBay or Craigslist and look at what's being listed, then check it out on the vintage synth site.

Personally, I own a Yamaha SY-77 that I got off eBay for a good price. Unfortunately, I have not had the time to actually learn to play it much. Unhappy


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2009 at 08:38
Thanks for the help Hexenmeister - This looks like a great site!

I'll shop around and see what I can find...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2009 at 12:45
Check out the Dave Smith instruments MoPho, an analog synthesizer even I could afford. It's monophonic, but then so are the Moogs. You'll have to get the keyboard separately, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2009 at 21:55

Get the Alesis Micron.  I'm one of those people that hate modern digital imitations, but still it satisfies my needs for a Moog.  It sounds exactly like a Moog in every fashion and contains all the controlls and everything.  And it's not $2000 like a Mini-Moog

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2009 at 04:03
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Get the Alesis Micron.  I'm one of those people that hate modern digital imitations, but still it satisfies my needs for a Moog.  It sounds exactly like a Moog in every fashion and contains all the controlls and everything.  And it's not $2000 like a Mini-Moog



Oh my, they look amazing!

Think I'll save up a while and grab one of these... Just look absolutely awesome!

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2009 at 10:05
I second the opinion that Micron is a perfect choice for a beginner with little cash to spare. It simulates almost perfectly the mini-moog sounds and controls and you get many other interesting sounds as well, like Taurus Bass Pedals, a bunch of nice sounding organs, a few sequencers, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2009 at 10:22
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I think I'll order one tommorow

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 07:03
Waldorf's Blofeld is an excellent choice if you have a midi controller
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 08:45
I'm a synth collectionist and there's no sound as analog sound indeed.

But it depends a hell lot of what you're going to do with it, what do you won't to play?

It's like asking I would like to buy a car or a Rolls Royce, something not top expensive...

What kind of music(s)? A synth easy to use with more limited capabilities, or more advanced one, but more difficult to use? How much are you familiar with analogue subtractive synthesis? Do you want sounds at glance or want to dig deeper into tweaking? What is your price limit? Do you need MIDI? Do you need polyphony? Do you want sequencer? Do you want patch memory? Do you need velocity sensitive keys? Do you want to plug your guitar in it as in an effect?

Do you want solos, chords? Gritty sound, greasy, mellow, hollow, dirty, clean, thin?

You won't get a Moog for cheap.

If you do I'll kill you.

Do you find virtual analogs/analog modelling synth acceptable (digital ones pretendiong to be analog)
Do you mind using a software synth?

If you don't, Arturia's software (Moog Modular V and Mini Moog V) are very authentic. They're not for beginners though. But they're fun to learn even with hit-and-miss method.
Of analog modelling, Alesis Micron is also a good...no, excelent choice for the bucks. Horrible to program though.

Dave Smith Instrument mentioned is also good - I have Evolver, and it's a beast. Also tedious to program, even tedious to tame, because it's howling and growling. But incredible modulation capabilities for a low price.

Perhaps the most ideal (vintage) analog synth for beginners is Roland Juno 60. Great lush sounds, but more 80's than 70's oriented.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 09:03
Just don't buy one with built in speakers.  I lucked out and found a used Kawai K1 at a music instrument store that was affordable.  It's held up pretty well for more than a few years.  If you've got stores that sell used, I highly recommend visiting and trying out whatever they have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 11:11
I've been using a Roland XV-88 (with 88 keys like a piano) for years. Great sound, great feeling/touch and just great overall really. It has survived the test of time pretty well. And while it's not very suitable for studio work or sound editing it 's ideal for stage performances. It was like $2500 originally, but you can get one for less than $1000 nowadays.
It's a pain to move the thing around however, weighing a bloody 27 Kg.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 11:23
Originally posted by Zebedee Zebedee wrote:

I've been using a Roland XV-88 (with 88 keys like a piano) for years. Great sound, great feeling/touch and just great overall really. It has survived the test of time pretty well. And while it's not very suitable for studio work or sound editing it 's ideal for stage performances. It was like $2500 originally, but you can get one for less than $1000 nowadays.
It's a pain to move the thing around however, weighing a bloody 27 Kg.


Agreed. Roland JV/XV engine series are probably the "warmest" sounding ones ever. Sound editing requires a little patience but could do wonders! Overrated Korg Tritons and even Yamaha Motifs are not even close at being so lush in sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2009 at 11:27
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Zebedee Zebedee wrote:

I've been using a Roland XV-88 (with 88 keys like a piano) for years. Great sound, great feeling/touch and just great overall really. It has survived the test of time pretty well. And while it's not very suitable for studio work or sound editing it 's ideal for stage performances. It was like $2500 originally, but you can get one for less than $1000 nowadays.
It's a pain to move the thing around however, weighing a bloody 27 Kg.


Agreed. Roland JV/XV engine series are probably the "warmest" sounding ones ever. Sound editing requires a little patience but could do wonders! Overrated Korg Tritons and even Yamaha Motifs are not even close at being so lush in sound.


Yeah, I've never liked Korgs. They always have a sort of plastic/synthetic tone that I don't like and the piano patches are somehow off-pitch. Korgs generally do have better organ patches though.


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So joel, what did you get after?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2009 at 01:25
Originally posted by AnchovyRun AnchovyRun wrote:

So joel, what did you get after?


I still haven't actually gotten around to buying one - I'm looking for an ALESIS MICRON, as someone suggested earlier, but my only options are to buy one from America, which would cost loads for postage (not to mention a new adapter) or to buy from an Australian distributer, which costs around 2.5 times as much...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 17:03
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2010 at 08:09
Originally posted by Zebedee Zebedee wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Zebedee Zebedee wrote:

I've been using a Roland XV-88 (with 88 keys like a piano) for years. Great sound, great feeling/touch and just great overall really. It has survived the test of time pretty well. And while it's not very suitable for studio work or sound editing it 's ideal for stage performances. It was like $2500 originally, but you can get one for less than $1000 nowadays.
It's a pain to move the thing around however, weighing a bloody 27 Kg.


Agreed. Roland JV/XV engine series are probably the "warmest" sounding ones ever. Sound editing requires a little patience but could do wonders! Overrated Korg Tritons and even Yamaha Motifs are not even close at being so lush in sound.


Yeah, I've never liked Korgs. They always have a sort of plastic/synthetic tone that I don't like and the piano patches are somehow off-pitch. Korgs generally do have better organ patches though.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 29 2010 at 19:58
There is a Moog Satellite on ebay now for around 120$. Would that be any good?
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