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    Posted: June 23 2009 at 07:05
Aside from the inventions of musical instruments...

Edited by Slartibartfast - June 23 2009 at 07:09
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 07:20
Written music by far. I think that started around Byzantine and Gregorian Chant, and we've been in for a great ride ever since Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 07:43
Probably the invention of one of these genres:

Experimental/Post Metal
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal
Post Rock/Math Rock
Crossover Prog
Eclectic Prog

I guess historically  The Phongraph is almost as revolutionary as Written Music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 07:52
^ But that only revoplutionised the way we listen to music.

So I vote for Written.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 08:41
I just realized I left out radio and satellite radio, though they are mediums that used other media...
I grew up with radio but have long since abandoned it pretty much.

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Probably the invention of one of these genres:

Experimental/Post Metal
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal
Post Rock/Math Rock
Crossover Prog
Eclectic Prog


I think genres that revolutionized music are worthy of their own poll...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 11:21
I went with tape. I can't imagine all the music that has been performed in the past and had to be a one shot recording due to not having tape that has been lost.  Written music is important but for me that is a given. Modern music existed for hundreds of years prior to tape. Tape made it possible to save that music for future generations. Just my humble opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 11:50
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

I went with tape. I can't imagine all the music that has been performed in the past and had to be a one shot recording due to not having tape that has been lost.  Written music is important but for me that is a given. Modern music existed for hundreds of years prior to tape. Tape made it possible to save that music for future generations. Just my humble opinion.
 
True  that music has existed since the first dinosaur farted, but without radio exposure I don't think it would have 'exploded' like it has. How many modern day bands were created because kids many decades ago were trying to get their song played on the local radio station. So I think exposure is the greatest factor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 12:36
I'm leaning towards the phonograph or some other form of recorded sound.  Being able to hear a musical performance without being in the presence of the band or musician outweighs written music, in my opinion, because the audio recording means more to the general public than written music (which not everyone can interpret). 

However, written music (traditional or some form of tabulature) makes it easier for musicians to share musical ideas with each other instead of saying "put your fingers here" or something similar.

Hard choice, but I'll vote for the phonograph.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:18
While being able to listen to music may outweigh written music in some peoples opinions, writing music down gave it the ability to be passed along and evolve more and more
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:52
Actually, three hundred years ago music was played a lot in theatres and the most successful stuff was spreading very fast by oral means. And it was also the snobbery - everybody wanted to see other people at the theatres, and wanted to be seen. There were the good seats, for nobles and other fancy persons, and there was the gallery where everybody could come (it was very cheap). It was unlikely, at that time, that one wouldn't attend to various shows. I'd say that the phonograph and the radio were not that big of a revolution. They brought music to the people, but before people used to go for the music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 14:42
from your list I'd say the phonograph, but I tend to think it was electronic amplification


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 14:47
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

from your list I'd say the phonograph, but I tend to think it was electronic amplification


 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 14:56
Written music, of course. It's not very reliable to reproduce music otherwise. Without that, you're basically taking a guess on how the composer played it, unless he's standing right over you critiquing you. Without written music, just like oral stories, the originals will never survive hundreds of years intact. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:01
i vote invention of audio ("tape"). for the above reasons. imo, much more important than anything that came afterward, since those were just improvements over the original.....in second place is written music, however i'm pretty sure that mostly only classical music was preserved in this way, so tape would've been much better if it was available then to the commonfolk. also, internet definately revolutnionized music distribution, so i'd put that 4th, after radio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:07
The development of written language is one the greatest advances in human history allowing for, not only the documentation and disemination of information, but also serving as an incredible organizational tool. I think the same can said for the development of a musical lexicon. The development of an alphabet (if you will) for music, provided a means for historical record, wide spread distribution, and a means of visual representation that allowed one to analyze music in a different way. Our memories are limited, so when you can write something down, you can more easily study it, analyze it, amend it, and build upon it.  Please be aware that I am in no way suggesting that you need to read music in order to be a musician - brilliant or otherwise. Indeed history has demonstrated time and again that there is no logical correlation between the abillity to read music and the abillity to produce great works. I'm merely saying that the development of a written language advanced music theory exponentially.  
 
In comparison I think it is safe to say that developments in recording technology also allow for not only a historical record and provide a means for wide spread distribution, but have also made possible previously unimaged methods of composition such as musique concrete, backward tracking, and others.  However I don't necessarily believe that recording technology has had as broad an effect on music theory and composition as writing has.
 
There was, in an earlier post, a suggestion that the development of certain musical genres has revolutionzied music. I would argue that it isn't genres but techniques developed in those genres that cause the greater change. For instance, I think the development of a dodecaphonic (12 tone) technique in composition did more to revolutionize classical music than any technological adcancement has.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:15
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ But that only revoplutionised the way we listen to music.

So I vote for Written.


Being able to record music has totally revolutionised the way artists can create music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:16
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^ But that only revoplutionised the way we listen to music.

So I vote for Written.


Being able to record music has totally revolutionised the way artists can create music.

Has it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:23
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:



Being able to record music has totally revolutionised the way artists can create music.

Has it?


There's so many ways to creat music that wasn't possible before you could record it.

You can cut and paste, and create a melody/song/track that never actually "happened", or combine extracts from several jams, to create a whole.

People that can't read notes (or play an instrument, or sing) can spend a year in a studio and record a three minute "masterpiece" etc...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2009 at 15:25
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Even better, Guitar Hero. LOL
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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