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tamijo 
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 Topic: 1967: Proto-Prog PlaylistPosted: June 26 2009 at 16:35 |
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13th Floor Elevators I would say was important.
Would consider them more prog than most of the listed bands Edited by tamijo - June 26 2009 at 16:39 |
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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earlyprog
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Posted: June 24 2009 at 07:50 |
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Thanks for drawing my attention to S.F. Sorrow, Chelsea.
Subsequently added:
Private Sorrow mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Balloon Burning mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Death mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Well Of Destiny mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Defecting Grey mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Talkin' About The Good... mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things Edited by earlyprog - June 24 2009 at 07:51 |
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Chelsea
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Posted: June 23 2009 at 13:16 |
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I really don't think the Beach Boys or the Byrds are proto-prog. I agree they were both experimental and influential but proto-prog no way. Some of the tracks could qualify as Progressive Rock here especially the Beatles "A Day in the Life" and of course tracks by Nice, Procul Harum, and Soft Machine.
Is there any recording dates for the Pretty Things S.F Sorrow who are not on the playlist?
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victor77
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Posted: June 23 2009 at 09:29 |
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Sun Ra and Miles Davis would fit well in this list
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earlyprog
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Posted: June 21 2009 at 05:37 |
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I put Light My Fire and other material from the Door's debut album on the '66 playlist since it was recorded in August 1966. I have attempted to list the songs chronologically by recording date. It was released in January 1967.
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prog4evr
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Posted: June 21 2009 at 02:43 |
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Don't know if you think it is sacrilegious to say "Light My Fire" from The Doors first album (1967) is proto-prog. For that extended Vox Jaguar organ solo, if nothing else!
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Logan
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:03 |
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I consider Cream worthy of addition to PA under Proto-Prog as I feel that they made music that would fit the category. I supported that Rolling Stone's album before but am hardly convinced because I think they were jumping on the psyche bandwagon, and it's not that progressive.
How about a Pärson Sound track ? http://www.myspace.com/parsonsoundMaybe "Sov Gott RoseMarie"? |
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Little Sir John
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 10:27 |
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Oh, okay thanks.
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"I just felt we were capable of breaking new ground... with a vengeance."
~Jon Anderson |
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someone_else
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 08:02 |
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In Wikipedia and allmusic, both 1967 and 1968 are mentioned as years of release. I think that you can choose if you put them on your 1967 or 1968 list (or both). I have not found an exact date of release yet.
Edited by someone_else - June 10 2009 at 08:08 |
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earlyprog
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 06:55 |
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Someone_else, What Love (Suite) is (was) on my playlist for 1968 as I haven't been able to establish when it was recorded or released. I thought for sure it was released in '68 though.
You shouldn't by any chance have a reference on that?
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someone_else
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 04:56 |
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I suggest that you should add at least one track from the debut album of The Collectors, a Canadian gem from 1967 (sometimes dated 1968) that, to my amazement, has only one rating.
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earlyprog
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Posted: June 10 2009 at 04:19 |
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Sir, don't let these bands confuse you. In 1967 you would find a little prog here and there, but at this time more and more expanded to entire songs, not just sections of songs.
Their Satanic Majesties Request is heavy on raga and UK psyche (and space rock). You will find that some on this forum see this as proto-prog. Personally I'm undecided, but inclined to say it's not.
The Animals to me (again, on selected tracks) represent an early form of US psyche (ala Jefferson Airplane). Again, personally I'm not convinced Jefferson Airplane are proto-prog but they are on PA. The same with the Byrds, but they covered a much wider spectrum of genres (raga, US psyche, space rock) and ought to be on PA.
Recall that the list attempts to present all the songs from 1967 that had some progressive flavour. In 1968 I would have to list entire albums. But this is not the case in 1967.
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Little Sir John
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Posted: June 09 2009 at 09:55 |
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The Stones were proto-prog??
And The Beach Boys!? And The Animals and Cream and the Bryds?? I'm so confused. |
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earlyprog
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Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:32 |
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Below please find a playlist of proto-prog for the year 1967. Please fill in any blanks you find - any '67 song you think may have contributed to the development of prog.
Song Recorded/Released Artist Style (Carnival Of Light Jan '67/unreleased Beatles)
Nick's Boogie Jan '67/'99 Pink Floyd
A Day in the Life Jan/June '67 Beatles
Only a Northern Song Feb '67/Jan '69 Beatles I Don't Live Today Feb/May '67 Jimi Hendrix Being for the Benefit of.. Feb-March/June '67 Beatles A Whiter Shade of Pale March?/May '67 Procol Harum Lucy in the Sky With… March/June '67 Beatles Within You Without You March-April/June '67 Beatles Are You Experienced? April/May '67 Jimi Hendrix Lady Friend April/July '67 Byrds Astronomy Domine April/Aug '67 Pink Floyd Dropout Boogie April/Sept '67 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Electricity April/Sept '67 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Abba Zaba April/Sept '67 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band It's All Too Much May '67/Jan '69 Beatles Baby You're a Rich Man May/July '67 Beatles Tiny Goddess ?/July '67 Nirvana Sunshine of Your Love May/Nov '67 Cream Dance the Night Away May/Nov '67 Cream Tales of Brave Ulysses May/Nov '67 Cream We're Going Wrong May/Nov '67 Cream You Know My Name (...) May-June '67, April '69/Mar '70 Beatles Pow R. Toc H. Feb-June/Aug '67 Pink Floyd Interstellar Overdrive Feb-June/Aug '67 Pink Floyd Strange Days Feb-Aug/Sept '67 Doors When the Music's Over Feb-Aug/Sept '67 Doors Bang Bang ?/Aug '67 Vanilla Fudge Stra (Illusions of My Childhood, Pt. 1)/You Keep Me Hangin' ... ?/Aug '67 Vanilla Fudge Old John Robertson June/July '67 Byrds Fall Breaks and Back to.. June/Sept '67 Beach Boys She's Goin' Bald June/Sept '67 Beach Boys Vegetables June/Sept '67 Beach Boys Little Pad June/Sept '67 Beach Boys Wonderful June/Sept '67 Beach Boys Conquistador June? '67/Jan '68 Procol Harum Repent Walpurgis June? '67/Jan '68 Procol Harum Homburg June?/Oct '67 Procol Harum Shine on Brightly June? '67/1997 Procol Harum My White Bicycle June?/July '67 Tomorrow Revolution July?/Aug? ’67 Tomorrow The Incredible Journey… ? ‘67/Feb ’68 Tomorrow Now Your Time Has… ? ‘67/Feb ’68 Tomorrow Love and Beauty July/Sept '67 Moody Blues Rael 1 July/Dec '67 Who Rael 2 July/Dec '67 Who 2000 Light Years from… July/Dec ’67 Rolling Stones Beechwood Park June-Aug '67/April '68 Zombies Brief Candles June-Aug '67/April '68 Zombies Hung Up on a Dream June-Aug '67/April '68 Zombies Butcher's Tale (Western..) June-Aug '67/April '68 Zombies Time of the Season June-Aug '67/April '68 Zombies Wings of Love July?/Oct? '67 Nirvana Lonely Boy July?/Oct? '67 Nirvana In the Courtyard of the… July?/Oct? '67 Nirvana Pentecost Hotel July?/Oct? '67 Nirvana Take This Hand July?/Oct? '67 Nirvana Life Ain't Easy ?/? '67 Nirvana The Red Telephone June-Sept/Nov '67 Love Private Sorrow mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Balloon Burning mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Death mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Well Of Destiny mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Defecting Grey mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
Talkin' About The Good... mid-late '67/Dec '68 Pretty Things
That's How Much I Love.. Aug?/Nov '67 H.P. Lovecraft Let's Get Together Aug?/Nov '67 H.P. Lovecraft The White Ship Aug?/Nov '67 H.P. Lovecraft Save Yourself ? '67/2001 Soft Machine Lullaby Letter ? '67/2001 Soft Machine Bossa Nova Express Sept '67/2006 Soft Machine Hope for Happiness Sept '67/2006 Soft Machine Disorganisation Sept '67/2006 Soft Machine I Should've Known Sept '67/2006 Soft Machine Why Are We Sleeping? Sept '67/2006 Soft Machine I Can See for Miles Sept/Oct '67 Who I Am the Walrus Sep/Nov '67 Beatles Blue Jay Way Sep/Dec '67 Beatles Flying Sep/Dec '67 Beatles Veruska Sept '67/1996 Spirit
Sing This All Together (.) Feb-Oct/Dec ’67 Rolling Stones Gomper Feb-Oct/Dec ’67 Rolling Stones A Small Package of Value June-Oct/Nov ’67 Jefferson Airplane Spare Chaynge June-Oct/Nov ’67 Jefferson Airplane Who Needs the Peace… Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa Mom & Dad Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa Absolutely Free Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa Flower Punk Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa Mother People Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa The Chrome Plated Mega Aug-Oct '67/March '68 Frank Zappa Hall of the Mountain… Oct '67/1994 Who Lunch Break: Peak Hour Oct/Nov '67 Moody Blues The Afternoon: Forever.. Oct/Nov '67 Moody Blues The Night: Nights in… Oct/Nov '67 Moody Blues Here We Go 'Round the.. ?/Nov '67 Traffic Heaven Is in Your Mind ?/Dec '67 Traffic No Face, No Name, No… ?/Dec '67 Traffic Giving to You ?/Dec '67 Traffic Hole in My Shoe ?/Dec '67 Traffic Rondo ?/Dec '67 Nice War and Peace ?/Dec '67 Nice Tantalising Maggie ?/Dec '67 Nice Dawn ?/Dec '67 Nice If Not This Time ?/Dec ’67 Fifty Foot Hose Fantasy ?/Dec ’67 Fifty Foot Hose Cauldron ?/Dec ’67 Fifty Foot Hose Possession Oct '67/Jan '68 Iron Butterfly You Can't Win Oct '67/Jan '68 Iron Butterfly So-Lo Oct '67/Jan '68 Iron Butterfly Fields of Sun Oct '67/Jan '68 Iron Butterfly Iron Butterfly Theme Oct '67/Jan '68 Iron Butterfly On Tomorrow Oct-Nov '67/? '99 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Flower Pot Oct-Nov '67/? '99 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Dirty Blue Gene Oct-Nov '67/? '99 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Korn Ring Finger Oct-Nov '67/? '99 Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band Fresh-Garbage Nov '67/Jan '68 Spirit Mechanical World Nov '67/Jan '68 Spirit Elijah Nov '67/Jan '68 Spirit Free Spirit Nov '67/Jan '68 Spirit Changes Nov '67/April '68 Zombies The American Metaphys Dec '67/March '68 The United States of America Hard Coming Love Dec '67/March '68 The United States of America The Garden of Earthly… Dec '67/March '68 The United States of America Coming Down Dec '67/March '68 The United States of America Love Song for the Dead.. Dec '67/March '68 The United States of America Shine on Brightly ? '67?/? '68 Procol Harum Skip Softly (My…) ? '67?/? '68 Procol Harum In Held Twas in I:… ? '67?/? '68 Procol Harum EXP ?/? ’67 Jimi Hendrix If 6 Was 9 ?/? ’67 Jimi Hendrix Flight from Ashiya ?/? ’67 Kaleidoscope A Lesson Perhaps ?/? ’67 Kaleidoscope The Sky Children ?/? ’67 Kaleidoscope H-O-P-P-Why? ?/? ’67 Hapshash & The Coloured Coat Reborn ?/? ’67 Group 1850 Mother No-Head ?/? ’67 Group 1850 What Love (Suite) ? '67?/? '67? The Collectors Edited by earlyprog - June 24 2009 at 07:48 |
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