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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 13:57 |
^ Peart is a great drummer.. personally I like to call him the walking drum-solo. Thing is prog is filled also filled with great drummers... Known and not so known that are as good.. or probably better. He got on MTV... so the kiddies worship him hahah. Now if ELP had... we'd have percussion and drum retail stores across the nation called Toccata rather than 2112 Case in point... Peart never did anything that approached what Palmer did with Toccata.
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:04 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Putting my helmet....
Camel: Better than valium to sleep, well I like Moonmadness.
Now throw the stones, I protected my head.
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talk about stealing my punchlines... hahhaha... I worry about protecting more than your head good thing I'm married.
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:11 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
The Decemberists (I don't know what to say really, people have been crooning over this band lately... there's nothing special here at all, I'd like to hear someone who likes them try to describe what it is exactly that's good about them, that would be interesting)
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hmmm... how to say this.... your loss... what's good about them? I love their music, their lyrics...their approach to making music... what more do you want.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:35 |
micky wrote:
^ Peart is a great drummer.. personally I like to call him the walking drum-solo.
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This reminds me of a TV program I once watched which was a feature
about the French violinist Didier Lockwood. When he was asked about his
time in Magma they showed a clip of them, and he commentated about
drummer Christian Vander: "He is soloing all the time". Also there was a post by Vibrationbaby in another thread, in which he said the same about drummer Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru. And I would say the same about the late Pierre Moerlen. Oh, and I totally agree with Vander and Neumeier too. That's why they are my personal top 3 of drummers in prog.
Edited by BaldFriede - June 13 2009 at 14:45
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:40 |
^ all imitators to the true King of the Walking Drum-Solo hell... the King of all rock drummers...
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:48 |
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:51 |
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:54 |
yeah.... got a bit carried away there. I should have my Moonie-for-life membership taken away for daring suggest that any of those other drummers could... or did imitate Moon. He was unique if anything hahha.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:57 |
micky wrote:
yeah.... got a bit carried away there. I should have my Moonie-for-life membership taken away for daring suggest that any of those other drummers could... or did imitate Moon. He was unique if anything hahha.
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Whlie I do like Moon...and think he was a good......maybe great drummer? Probably great. I always found his style a biot haphazard and messy. Do you know what I mean at all otr am I barking in the wind.
Or just barking!
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Raff
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 14:59 |
Well, you're Snow Dog, after all ...
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 15:03 |
Snow Dog wrote:
micky wrote:
yeah.... got a bit carried away there. I should have my Moonie-for-life membership taken away for daring suggest that any of those other drummers could... or did imitate Moon. He was unique if anything hahha.
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Whlie I do like Moon...and think he was a good......maybe great drummer? Probably great. I always found his style a biot haphazard and messy. Do you know what I mean at all otr am I barking in the wind.
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that is the beauty of it.... from G.S's page... Finally, the drummer was Keith Moon, a figure as legendary in its
own rights as JFK or Martin Luther King and therefore not really worth
writing a lot about. The only issue I'd like to address is that some people
seem to seriously believe that the only thing Keith Moon could ever do
was bash, thrash, and crash. Well, that's true. And John Coltrane could
only blow. And Hemingway could only write. The art of bashing
and thrashing can be as much an art as anything else - and the bashing
and thrashing of Keith Moon had a clever and unique bashing and crashing
technique all its own. In fact, I'd like to see some of his bashing and
thrashing converted to guitar music one day, just to let the dissenters
see what he really was trying to achieve with his style.
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mirco
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 15:10 |
Keith Moon? WHO is this guy?
Amazing, but pushed too hard on his personal choices and therefore payed the consecuences. As many other musicians.
Edited by mirco - June 13 2009 at 15:11
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Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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micky
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 15:15 |
yeah... thank god this is a musical forum and not a forum for morality or healthy living hahha.
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crimson87
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:26 |
Captain Capricorn wrote:
crimson87 wrote:
But he can touch a proper jazz fusion drummer , that's for sure. |
...he doesn't have anything on Tony Williams or Max Roach
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I'm sorry , I forgot the "'t" in my sentence!
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The T
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:32 |
Well,
The Who
King Criimson (except ITCOTCK)
ELP (except Tarkus)
Sigur Ros (except when he dies)
Most post-rock (except Mogwai and G.I.A.N and another exception)
Among countless others...
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 16:51 |
micky wrote:
^ Peart is a great drummer.. personally I like to call him the walking drum-solo.
Thing is prog is filled also filled with great drummers... Known and not so known that are as good.. or probably better.
He got on MTV... so the kiddies worship him hahah.
Now if ELP had... we'd have percussion and drum retail stores across the nation called Toccata rather than 2112 Case in point... Peart never did anything that approached what Palmer did with Toccata.
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Peart had the savior-faire and timing on his side. Not to mention songs that are easily accessible by many. He is no Gavin Harrison, but he is no slouch either. His style of playing is infectious to the young listener. It grabbed me as a teenager and made me want to pick up the sticks.
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SergiUriah
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:36 |
BaldFriede wrote:
mirco wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
I just only would like to know a thing. Why some works from Santana (even I only have his first one, and a Greatest Hits and Abraxas I have listened 70´s Lps too...) are named in this page as Prog Albums??? | Check out Caravanserai, and you´ll find the answer. |
Even "Abraxas" is a full-fledged prog album in my opinion.
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I had already listened to both albums, but Santana never seemed to me like a Prog Band, but a Latin Rock one that made big jams, but is my very personal opinion.
Allman Brother band might be considereed as a Prog Rock band in the same way, if we choose these parameters. And so many others too...
I don´t think Santana, even on those albums, may be called a Prog band.
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crimson87
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:53 |
I think early Santana was way groundbreaking , thus progressive. But never "prog"
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 17:55 |
Frank Zappa, I like the album One size fits all and some of The grand wazoo, but besides that I just don't get most of his stuff, and his awfull singing doesn't help at all. Also, Gentle Giant, I tried with several of their albums but I can't get into them, especially their sung melodies, they doesn't flow at all jumping from one note to another without any melodic sense.
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In the end the love you take is equal to the love you made...
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Failcore
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 21:15 |
Man lots of GG mentions here. But then again that's as it should be. Any band that original is bound to make waves.
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