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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31377 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 20:03 | |||
I can't choose between Erotomania, Overture 1928 and Dance of Eternity!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:10 | |||
I'm not sure if that's because you took my post too seriously, or you are trying to lead me on to believe you did, but really you didn't Heh, now and then Petrucci does the 'guitar emotion' faces anyway, he just doesn't do it as frequently as say, Jimi Hendrix, did. He's a good live performer, and he's tasteful too. Malmsteen on the other hand, allocates himself a set solo spot for his live shows. It isn't even necessary, considering he displays enough of his skill in his songs without needing a solo spot where he doesn't really play anything really different from his solos in his songs. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:25 | |||
I don't think there really is a band that ever played their live stuff to perfection though. Even the tightest bands and artists on the planet are prone to sloppiness now and then. A little sloppiness is cool, because it shows at least the performer is still human and not some insane robot. I've seen Petrucci fluff up, I've seen Vai screw up parts of his songs, I've seen Satriani miss notes and nuances, I've seen video performances of Guthrie Govan having an average day too, and these are some of the tightest guitar players on the planet, make no mistake. The idea that there is even perfection or even saying Perfection equals lack of idea is absurd. You're telling me that local blues player that plays the same garbage each night, same bloody chord progression and is as sloppy as hell, has more 'ideas' than a progressive metal band that actually knows how to play and incorporates a wide variety of styles into their music so everything sounds different? There is absolutely no correlation between technical ability and lack of musical ideas. You can be sloppy as hell and have no imagination, or you can be the world's most technical player and reel off song after song of brilliant, different ideas each time. I'd say that Dream Theater, over their years as a band, has demonstrated far more variety, imagination and musical ideas and yet retain their technical prowess compoared to a local, sloppy as hell, AC/DC cover band. That's a pretty fair statement don't ya reckon? I can handle a bit of slop in playing, but when it gets to the stage where a guitarist can't even play in tune, can't add any nuances and subtleties to his playing, can't even do vibrato properly and can barely mute the strings properly, it just sounds like a mess, not good music or good playing. People use to walk out of Led Zepellin gigs because Jimmy Page couldn't play for sh*t during his drug addict days, and I would have walked outta the gig too if all I heard was some druken/ drug addled idiot that can't even play a single note in tune or in time. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:29 | |||
Argh god, I honestly hate that song now. That song is partly the reason why I can only give SFAM 4 out of 5. I can't believe they kept that garbage on the record. It's a bunch of musical disjointed ideas that don't even flow well lumped together and called a song. As well as that goddamn, overrated rag time keyboard solo |
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:42 | |||
^ I love the ragtime solo!
Yeah, but I totally agree that DoE totally gets old.
On the subject of playing styles, as a more classically trained musician, I find it more appreciable if a guitarist is able to play something note for note. I mean, you don't see a concert pianist hit a wrong note in a concerto and say that he's playing with more emotion.
However, when bands make room during their live sets to jam out, that's great too.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:45 | |||
^The Ragtime solo is great, don't get me wrong.
But I feel it's importance in the album is over hyped, I hear people speak of that solo as if it's suddenly a million times more amazing than anything that was ever done on a keyboard type instrument, and that bothers me, because it certainly isn't that amazing. But I guess these are the same guys that don't understand and know the history of the sheer innovation of piano that happened in the Romantic period and all that, which is where most of the serious piano genius lies for me. |
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: March 07 2009 at 23:54 | |||
^ It's just Dream Theater fanboyism. Everything great about them is over hyped a million times. At this point I'm preaching to the choir, but I try not to let people's comments about a band bother my enjoyment of them. But honestly, have you ever heard heavy metal ragtime?
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: March 08 2009 at 18:47 | |||
Either "Overture 1928" or "Overture (6Doit)". I kind of like a few of the others more as complete "songs", but without these two overtures, both of the albums would almost fail.
I'll go with 1928, but 6DOIT isn't far behind. |
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hagguhsem
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Posted: April 19 2009 at 06:32 | |||
I like The dance of eternity most because it has something like 100 riffs and not a single bad one, and it was the first DT song I ever heared
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Epignosis
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Posted: April 19 2009 at 06:36 | |||
This. |
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 07 2008 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7826 |
Posted: April 20 2009 at 15:22 | |||
Keep in mind there is a song before this on Scenes. |
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Badabing666
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 30 2008 Location: Devon, UK Status: Offline Points: 248 |
Posted: April 21 2009 at 07:27 | |||
I've voted for Stream of Consciousness although Overture (6Doit) is a close second.
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Statutory-Mike
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
Posted: April 21 2009 at 07:48 | |||
Erotomania, has the sickest guitar solo I've ever heard Petrucci play. Can't go wrong there.
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: April 21 2009 at 07:59 | |||
Gotta be Hell's Kitchen for me. Love that song.
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Diaby
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 15 2007 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 774 |
Posted: April 21 2009 at 08:44 | |||
Stream of Consciousness. It's really not too long and not so bad composition-wise. I simply love the mood represented by that song.
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yeah
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: April 21 2009 at 08:56 | |||
^ It bores me. Maybe I should give it another go, though. Any suggestions on stuff I could listen to that sounds similar to it? I need to work my way up, it seems.
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Telinstryata
Forum Groupie Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 77 |
Posted: April 22 2009 at 07:50 | |||
Stream of Consciousness with Overture (1928) and Erotomania tied for a very close second (really tough to choose between those three for me)
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progkidjoel
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
Posted: May 22 2009 at 04:55 | |||
This. Hell's Kitchen FTW |
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