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    Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:01
It seems that everyone here is giving "half stars" to albums when I read their reviews.  I see a 3.5 or 4.5.  Well, why don't we solve this problem and have a 10 point system?  We can then have people who are "on the fence" get off the fence and post a more accurate rating for the album of which they have reviewed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:06
Amen brother, I agree completely. I would love to see the 10 star system or 5 star system (with half stars)

Unfortunately this has been discussed to death (if I remember correctly?), and it seems to have been left as is for the time being.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:07
what would happen to the people who have 3000 reviews? Figure that out and you may have a better argument 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:14
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

what would happen to the people who have 3000 reviews? Figure that out and you may have a better argument 


I'm starting to like Ian's idea more every day.  Just drop the ratings altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.  That would solve so many problems in one swoop, and make people look to words rather than numbers for inspiration on what to buy.  No more fanboy street teams out there pumping the scores of their fave band above the competition.  No more endless debate about weighting, 5 or 10, et al.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:17
or reverse the algorithm so that 1 is a masterpiece and 5 is poor!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:23
I would say that the actual system is quite functionnal from the visitors perspective and point out good prog music in the end.

From a contributors point of view it seem limitative but , we want to help new prog geek complete their collection so ... I think PA work in that way.

Improvements come progressively ....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:29
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I'm starting to like Ian's idea more every day.  Just drop the ratings altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.  That would solve so many problems in one swoop, and make people look to words rather than numbers for inspiration on what to buy.  No more fanboy street teams out there pumping the scores of their fave band above the competition.  No more endless debate about weighting, 5 or 10, et al.

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Great reviewer! Clap
I completely agree...I would like all watchers here to read review contents rather than ratings.

P.S. LOL for your phrase "FANBOY STREET TEAMS"...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:31
True point M@X. But I do think sometime in the future a 10 point system would be perfect. Would make it easier to rate albums, (instead of struggling between a 3 and 4) an really is a better system. The difference from a 4 to 5 is pretty immense on the current scale, it'd be nice to be able to say 8, 9, or 10. Fewer albums would have "10" ratings IMO as well. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:31
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

I would say that the actual system is quite functionnal from the visitors perspective and point out good prog music in the end.

From a contributors point of view it seem limitative but , we want to help new prog geek complete their collection so ... I think PA work in that way.

Improvements come progressively ....



Yes.  Whether its a 5 or 10 point system, after hundreds and hundreds of ratings, you'll end up at about the same average either way.  The important thing is weeding out those attempting to schew the ratings, and the weighting helps address this issue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:35
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

what would happen to the people who have 3000 reviews? Figure that out and you may have a better argument 


I'm starting to like Ian's idea more every day.  Just drop the ratings altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.  That would solve so many problems in one swoop, and make people look to words rather than numbers for inspiration on what to buy.  No more fanboy street teams out there pumping the scores of their fave band above the competition.  No more endless debate about weighting, 5 or 10, et al.

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Wow.  I never thought of something so brilliant in my entire life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:49
Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

what would happen to the people who have 3000 reviews? Figure that out and you may have a better argument 


I'm starting to like Ian's idea more every day.  Just drop the ratings altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.  That would solve so many problems in one swoop, and make people look to words rather than numbers for inspiration on what to buy.  No more fanboy street teams out there pumping the scores of their fave band above the competition.  No more endless debate about weighting, 5 or 10, et al.

Wink

Wow.  I never thought of something so brilliant in my entire life.


I believe you.  LOL  Seriously though your idea is a popular one that has been brought up often.  Search out some of those threads and you can read both the concerns and the thoughts of those who agree. 


Edited by Finnforest - May 05 2009 at 22:05
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 06:26
I'm sorry, but I don't have time to read through endless reviews to determine what I think I might like to purchase next.

The ratings give me an "at a glance" idea of what many people think is an excellent album, and I can read the reviews for more information.

Additionally, there are certain people whose opinions I really look for (ClemofNazareth is one of them); if I see he rates an album 1 or 2 stars, I immediately want to know what he didn't like, and vice versa for high ratings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 06:34
If the OP would like to buy the site off the owner and implement it himself, sure thing.
But come on, you've been a member since September 2007, you know this has been suggested again and again and again.
It's a dead horse that's been beaten for way too long, I think by now people would have figured it out it's not going to happen and if by some miracle it does, not in the near future.
I agree that the 10 point system can come in handy, but you've got more choice of getting hit by a bus than having this implemented.


Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - May 06 2009 at 06:35
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 07:09
Why stop there?  How about 20 point? 50 point?  If you want more points for the system, there's always ratingsfreak.  The last time there was one of these threads I took the position against because it's the system people have been using and there's already a gazillion existing ratings based on it.  Plus people love to discuss their fractional ratings in their reviews and do silly things like round down a .5.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 07:46
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

If the OP would like to buy the site off the owner and implement it himself, sure thing.
But come on, you've been a member since September 2007, you know this has been suggested again and again and again.
It's a dead horse that's been beaten for way too long, I think by now people would have figured it out it's not going to happen and if by some miracle it does, not in the near future.
I agree that the 10 point system can come in handy, but you've got more choice of getting hit by a bus than having this implemented.



I don't lurk here due to my disgust with the general prog community, so I wouldn't know.  I just look here to get news, despite this place being about as fair and balanced as Faux News.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 10:08
Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

If the OP would like to buy the site off the owner and implement it himself, sure thing.
But come on, you've been a member since September 2007, you know this has been suggested again and again and again.
It's a dead horse that's been beaten for way too long, I think by now people would have figured it out it's not going to happen and if by some miracle it does, not in the near future.
I agree that the 10 point system can come in handy, but you've got more choice of getting hit by a bus than having this implemented.



I don't lurk here due to my disgust with the general prog community, so I wouldn't know.  I just look here to get news, despite this place being about as fair and balanced as Faux News.
 
This site is extremely fair to those willing to participate with good will and a little effort.  Ridiculously fair some might say, we have endless debates here where everyone speaks their mind before the Admin makes a decision.   That is democracy in action. 
 
You come here and contribute nothing but whining and name-calling, then complain that the community is unfair and that you hate us.  
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 10:48
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

If the OP would like to buy the site off the owner and implement it himself, sure thing.
But come on, you've been a member since September 2007, you know this has been suggested again and again and again.
It's a dead horse that's been beaten for way too long, I think by now people would have figured it out it's not going to happen and if by some miracle it does, not in the near future.
I agree that the 10 point system can come in handy, but you've got more choice of getting hit by a bus than having this implemented.



I don't lurk here due to my disgust with the general prog community, so I wouldn't know.  I just look here to get news, despite this place being about as fair and balanced as Faux News.
 
This site is extremely fair to those willing to participate with good will and a little effort.  Ridiculously fair some might say, we have endless debates here where everyone speaks their mind before the Admin makes a decision.   That is democracy in action. 
 
You come here and contribute nothing but whining and name-calling, then complain that the community is unfair and that you hate us.  
 
 


An overexaggeration.  I tap progarchives lightly on the shoulder and you consider it an assault charge.


The post was to state that I didn't lurk much due to a certain reason.  Stop being a hypocrite and derailing my thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 11:01
I also agree with this idea, but I accept it's impossible to implement because of the ratings already made. You can't turn someone's *** into a 6 because it may have been actually a 5 rounded up or a "7 really!" rounded down a la Sean Trane Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 11:09
5 steps here, 100 steps at PF ... I guess that this situation is permanent.Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 11:35
I have felt for years now the 10point system would be the best.
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