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jammun

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Posted: April 18 2009 at 15:55

StyLaZyn wrote:

Alberto Muñoz wrote:

Like the band a lot.

But sadly the are not a prog band.

jammun your idea is very good Prog Blues.... yummy

Nice idea, but who else could possibly be Prog Blues? besides, ABB isn't fully Prog. Sort of Prog related. Sort of Jazz/Blues fusion.

Well for Prog Blues, besides ABB, Butterfield Blues Band (on the basis of East West and In My Own Dream) would probably qualify. I could probably make a case for Electric Flag (Mike Bloomfield-era) and even early Fleetwood Mac (Then Play On, for example, with Oh Well).

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Posted: April 20 2009 at 20:17

A band that was on the same label as The Allman Bros, but did not receive the attention was Captain Beyond. If you like the Allman Brothers, and you like prog in general, you will love Captain Beyond. I only know of two CD's - Self Titled "Captain Beyond" and Sufficiently Breathless.

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Posted: April 21 2009 at 02:21

I don't see the need for them to be included here. I can understand obscure bands being included in prog-related in order to help us discover them, but most of us have already discovered ABB. They aren't proto-prog, and they're not prog at heart. Great jamming, Fillmore is as good as live albums get, but Just. Not. Prog. to my ears.

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Posted: April 21 2009 at 06:12

yesfaninatl wrote:

A band that was on the same label as The Allman Bros, but did not receive the attention was Captain Beyond. If you like the Allman Brothers, and you like prog in general, you will love Captain Beyond. I only know of two CD's - Self Titled "Captain Beyond" and Sufficiently Breathless.

Captain Beyond are indeed great, and I hope to review their debut album very soon. However, they were full-fledged Heavy Prog - unlike the ABB, whom I think are a bit of a can of worms (or perhaps a big one Wink

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Posted: April 21 2009 at 17:25

Re : Captain Beyond - very good debut, second one showed the inspiration drying up. Much better though, than that other MKI Purple offspring - Warhorse.

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:00

I bought Live at Fillmore East because of this thread, but I got to say that I didn't see anything remotely progressive about it. Just seemed like Blues rock/jamming to me. Did I get a bad album choice?

PS: Unless the use of hammond is auto-prog. It was all over that album.

Edited by Deathrabbit - April 25 2009 at 07:03

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:08

Deathrabbit wrote:

I bought Live at Fillmore East because of this thread, but I got to say that I didn't see anything remotely progressive about it. Just seemed like Blues rock/jamming to me. Did I get a bad album choice?

PS: Unless the use of hammond is auto-prog. It was all over that album.

Blues/rock jamming really is true for most of the album. What did you think about In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed though?

Edited by Slartibartfast - April 26 2009 at 07:31

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:13

Maybe I should give it a second spin; it was late at the time, so my concentration powers were not at their peak. If memory serves Hot Lanta and that one were my favorites, but they seemed kinda directionless and boring the first time thru. I'll listen to it again I guess.

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:36

I know these guys are probably not going to be part of ProgArchives, but all this ABB love! They need an appreciation thread of their own.

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:38

definitely listen closer.. it hasn't been labeled as the greatest live album rock album ever made (along with LaL) for no reason.

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Posted: April 25 2009 at 23:18

micky wrote:

definitely listen closer.. it hasn't been labeled as the greatest live album rock album ever made (along with LaL) for no reason.

Good advice Micky... Fillmoore East is the sound of a band that was truly in the pocket to stay throughout a lengthy jam-oriented performance, which was pretty amazing considering that they had 2 drummers. Duane Allman is the star of the show. For budding guitarists wanting to learn how to improvise with the attitude and fearlessness of a jazzman but with the soul of a bluesman, listen to Duane's guitar work on Fillmoore East. Duane was heavily influenced by Miles Davis Kind of Blue. As for ABB's jazz leanings, I believe Dickey Betts was more responsible for that direction than Duane. "Elizabeth Reed" and "Hot Lanta" were his songs. Berry Oakley was also heavily influenced by jazz; that 11/8 time sig on "Whipping Post" was his idea.

However, I am of the opinion that ABB probably do not belong here because they fit that description of being a great progressive band, but they are simply not prog. Furthermore, as was said earlier, they are indeed NOT a Southern Rock band. The only thing they have in common with Lynyrd Skynyrd are their roots in Jacksonville, FL.

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Posted: April 26 2009 at 07:16

I beg to differ, they are indeed mostly a southern rock band with progressive tendencies, particularly if you consider their early output. Later stuff is pretty much mostly sr. I don't profess to be an expert though. The only other album I have is Eat A Peach which has Mountain Jam, 33:38 minutes baby! Can a jam be an epic? Also very notable on that one is the instrumental Les Brers in A Minor. (9:03).

Edited by Slartibartfast - April 26 2009 at 07:29

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Posted: April 26 2009 at 10:52

yet again is the reason why I was hesistant to ever bring this band up...

it is progressive? Is it prog?

have prog bands been rejected here? yep

have 'progresive' bands been accepted here? yep

the site has long since moved past being just an archive of 'prog bands' and has moved into the realm of the progressive music. That isn't saying the ABB should be added..but that means they should not be rejected out of hand for not being 'prog'.

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Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:32

micky wrote:

the site has long since moved past being just an archive of 'prog bands' and has moved into the realm of the progressive music. That isn't saying the ABB should be added..but that means they should not be rejected out of hand for not being 'prog'.

Micky, as usual you are correct, PA has (to the chagrin of the prog purists) expanded to include some great non-prog bands who made progressive music. After all, this is not the Prog Only Archives. Within that broader context, then yes, ABB should be given consideration.

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Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:44

jimidom wrote:

Agreed!