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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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"Keyboard Ninjas" - is that a Gerard album?
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Yes Tony, but first one thuing, I'm no longer against his inclusion, despite this, I believe he's more a Prog Related artist than a Proto Prog,.
The Progressiveears review says nothing about Proto Prog says three things:
As I said, I'm not uncomfortable witth his addition anymore (read my review about Electric ladyland), I don't believe he's a Proto Prog artist, he has some relation with Prog, he influenced everybody after him (Rock, Blues, Folk, Pop and Prog), but he's not an integral part of the prog genre, and I believe Proto Prog is already a Prog sub-genre. People seem to believe Proto Prog is the Prog Related of the 60's, I believe is a Prog sub-genre by own right, and for that reason only Prog artists (with clear Prog elements and not just influential) should be there.
I know it won't happen, but Hendrix in Prog Related is much more acurate IMHO, even Psyche fits more.
Iván
BTW: GEPR has proto Prog
Again the omision of Hendrix is clear
Proggnosis has a lot of sub-genres and they have Proto Prog as EARLY PROGRESSIVE.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10680 |
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I don't know what max had in mind, but I didn't add hendrix for his guitar playing, I added him because his use of complicated structure in rock as early as 67 and 68. Aint no Tellin is a mini blueprint for that rapid fire riff based changes style of prog practiced by Yes and 70s Zappa.
Also 1983, Burning the Midnight Lamp, Girl so Fine, 3rd Stone and others. This plus his huge impact on the early prog scene. Edited by Easy Money - April 14 2009 at 17:31 |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
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Proto-Prog is for NON PROG bands. The whole thing we have been trying to get across to people is that bands added to Proto/Prog-Related are NOT considered Prog bands by this site.
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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^
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And on this long discussed thread a small snippet of a lyric......
Was it summer when the river ran dry or just another dam?....
I could go on but I won't
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Chris...Since when is discussion wrong?
I believe respectful debate is what makes ths site what it is.
Honestly,despite whatever is said, I always seen Proto Prog as Prog with almost all the elements, not just related, or if you want a step before Prog, while Prog Related is just a relation.
Iván
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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Discussion is not wrong - putting down people's work is. While Ivan is someone who can discuss respectfully and intelligently, other people can't.
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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^^ Ivan, I never once assumed anyone could not discuss it. I was speaking on a personal level only and no inference intended otherwise to the matter. You are right our debates/discussions are what lends credibility to the site, I was merely agreeing with Tony on the proto prog issue.
Discuss away.....I am just however thrilled that Hendrix contributes to the well being of this richly ' intellectually" invested site.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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discussion is great.... but where I was raised... crying about the barn door being left open after the cow has walked out just doesn't make make much sense.
how many times do people need to say they're are against something.. you know... we all understand that already ![]() Edited by micky - April 14 2009 at 18:38 |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65664 |
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I think it's a win/win; we have Hendrix here and we get to endlessly rattle on about the intricacies of music history ...woohoo!
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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ahh..make that win/win/win munch,munch,munch
AND get page long multi-sectioned quotated posts drenched in blue font.... YIPPEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() I love this site |
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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Discussion is great just don't smoke in here.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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none from me.. mouth is full of popcorn.... ![]() |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65664 |
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depends what you mean by "smoke", this is a Jimi Hendrix thread
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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let me stand next to your Fire!!!!!
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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![]() Whats the big deal I had two months of pent up agression to let loose.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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Smoke on the water!
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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Jimi didn't smoke he blazed! Like his life so was his guitar playing .
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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You maybe on to something. Put all the smokers on a barge!
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