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Poll Question: Do you agree with the ban?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 15:05
100% no.

It should be the decision of the bar owners. They'll take a hit in customers no matter what way they choose (either smokers leaving or non-smokers leaving), and the burden should be on them to make the decision for the atmosphere of the bar, not the health of hypothetical people.

In all honesty the crimes against free choice committed in the name of health is the unsung disaster, and it speaks volumes of the hypocrisy of Americans who are supposed to stand for freedom of choice, but when it comes down to an act most people dislike, they flake on their flimsy moral background.

Democrats, at least, have the platform of being nannies, so it's not unexpected from them. Yet it's often the prudish, supposedly moral Republican who come out against smoking, and thus just making another notch in the hypocrisy bedpost by abandoning the Randian ideals they like to verbally masturbate over when the political climate suits their devious plans (ie. now).

Full disclosure: I smoke a pipe, hookah, and sometimes self- rolled cigarettes.

An even bigger crime than the bar issue is the recent tax increase on tobacco, which is disgustingly high. And yet, most people don't care that it's the government's sick way of imposing behavior on its people.

It all infuriates me, more as a champion of decency and freedom than an occasional smoker.

Rant over...until someone responds. Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:57
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

What I meant to say is there is a hefty fine if you are caught smoking.
I have stopped for just over 3 months and still feel very tempted to light up when drinking (or being around other smokers)


Not to come across as rude or condescending, because I recognize how awful trying to quit smoking really is (my father used to smoke), but I think it's pretty selfish to force businesses to ban all smoking just because you don't want to feel pressured about it or surrounded with it.

When do we let our preferences come in the line with others' same freedoms? What boggles my mind is that people have choices not to be surrounded by it, yet they insist of ripping the freedom of smoking from everywhere except in one's own house/car or ONLY on private property (just you wait though--eventually there will be people pushing for a complete ban of tobacco altogether, mark my words) simply so that they don't have to be around it.

Adults are adults--they can make decisions, and if they choose to smoke or constantly surround themselves with secondhand smoke, they are adult enough to recognize the consequences and have that choice. It's a much different matter to directly harm someone else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:50
I favor a smoking ban in restaurants   Not in bars, clubs, and lounges.  That's pushing it too far.

(I've lived both in NC, the tobacco capital of the US and here in FL, that has a ban in place).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:48
What I meant to say is there is a hefty fine if you are caught smoking.
I have stopped for just over 3 months and still feel very tempted to light up when drinking (or being around other smokers)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:48
I think it's ridiculous. I would never be a smoker, but there is nothing good out of this, especially for businesses.

If you don't like clubs or bars that feature smoking heavily, then don't go there. It should be up to businesses whether they want to feature non-smoking sections or an entirely non-smoking business.

If enough people REALLY want a non-smoking bar, an entrepreneur or business owner will jump on the opportunity to make money off of it, and thus will voluntarily choose it. No need for the government to elevate this to a criminal offense.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:43
A criminal offence means you'll be sent to jail if you smoke? As much as I hate smoking, I think it's a bit excessive - unless it is motivated by safety reasons (clubs being often prone to fires). On the other hand, in Italy smoking has been banned from most public places, including offices and such - though of course there are people who disregard the ban. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:41
I like it

Been law in California for years now- and I can't see it any other way. Second hand smoke has proven to be deadly, so it should be that way.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2009 at 14:37

Today,A new law was passed : it is now a criminal offence to light up a ciggarette in a bar or club in Sao Paulo-Brazil.

As an ex smoker I am quite happy about this because I won´t be tempted to smoke.
How do you feel about smoking in bars/clubs?
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