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J-Man 
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:05 |
This comes up all the time in the thrash metal community. People always are arguing whether or not Puppets is the greatest metal album ever. I say that it's definitely up there with the best, but I'm not sure I'd call it THE best metal album ever. Just wondering what progheads, not metalheads, think about this one. 
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crimson87
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:11 |
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Master of Puppets is great , but And Justice for All is the best. Of course if you let me include Live after Death , then I will have to go with the Maiden.
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:13 |
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Definitely one of the best, though in my opinion not the very best. There are other equally great albums in 'classic' metal (to name but one, Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell), though Master of Puppets is certainly one of the most groundbreaking.
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CPicard
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:28 |
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The best one? No. One of the best ones.
Anyway, after spending years listening to many metal bands, I would NEVER say: "This band is the best one, this disc is the best one". Too much musicians to think about. Moreover, I'm still singing the praises of Iron Maiden's "Powerslave".
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Negoba
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 16:39 |
I'd vote for Mindcrime.
And I played in a Metallica cover band for several years. Justice has the more prog-gy songs (I love Harvester of Sorrow), but I suppose Puppets is the best overall Metallica album. Their three disc reign was pretty impressive.
It depends what kind of metal you're talking about too. Ozzy's Randy Rhoads Tribute album is phenomenal. Whitesnake 1987 is a great album. Then of course there's Appetite and Slippery When Wet, which may not be your cup of tea but hit their respective targets dead center. Gretchen Goes to Nebraska, FNM's Real Thing, and Extreme II all deserve mention too.
Mindcrime for me.
Edited by Negoba - January 26 2009 at 16:41
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 19:02 |
One of the best but not the best IMO
It's very subjetive that "best of"
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 19:06 |
No. Scenes from a Memory is. 
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 19:38 |
No.
The first Black Sabbath album is IMHO the greatest metal album ever! 
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stonebeard
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 19:58 |
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Best thrash, maybe.
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mithrandir
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 23:57 |
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not the best Metal nor the best Thrash Metal,
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BroSpence
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 00:13 |
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Quite possibly, yes.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 00:54 |
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Master of Puppets, obviously one of the most influential, but I can think of many metal albums I rate above it.
I think The Thing That Should Not Be is a really crap song to be honest, and drags down the album a bit, I always skip that song.
Speaking purely in terms of thrash metal, I think Rust In Peace by Megadeth is the best thrash metal album of all time, hasn't been topped before or since it was released IMO.
I even think Metallica's own Ride The Lightning is a superior listening experience *waits for people tell me I'm being blasphemous and not in a good way*
In broader metal terms, some more albums I rate above MoP include:
Jester Race by In Flames
Images and Words by Dream Theater
Slaughter Of The Soul by At The Gates
This Godless Endeavor by Nevermore
Powerslave by Iron Maiden
Colors by Between the Buried and Me
Oceanic by Isis
Chaosphere by Meshuggah
The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw by Pelican
And that's off the top of my head so far.
Edited by HughesJB4 - January 27 2009 at 01:00
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b_olariu
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 01:16 |
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Not the best metal album , for sure for me, among the best maybe, but everything Iron Maiden release in the '80's is far more challenging, at least for me,
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 01:26 |
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One of the best IMO.
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 05:53 |
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Decent album, but not my vote for greatest by far, that would be Black Sabbath's Heaven and Hell closely followed by Judas Priest's Stained Class. MOP is not even the best thrash metal album in my book, there have been better albums, by Metallica and by other bands, it depends on how much you like thrash metal and how much thrash, in turn, you've listened to.
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JayDee
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 06:15 |
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Is Master of Puppets the greatest metal album ever?
Not in my list. Probably Metallica's best work so far, but to say that it's the best metal album ever is for me, an overstatement.
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 07:55 |
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It may well be, it was certainly my favourite metal album for a long time when it was released in the 80's. If not the best then it's Metallica's best at least IMO and wouldn't be far off the top of any list of greatest metal albums.
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 08:01 |
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Master Of Puppets is one of the best, along with No Sleep Til Hammersmith, Metal Machine Music, and the first Carcass album
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 09:12 |
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Top 10, best Thrash as Stony said.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: January 27 2009 at 13:44 |
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No. Frankly, I don't think any Metallica albums are that good. I think they're very important and influential, and surely when considering strictly thrash metal they're at the top, but so many better bands have come out in metal music.
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