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Raff

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 15:44

cacho wrote:

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 15:21

Hell Yeah Anvil

And another one for the never ending bumping of this thread

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 15:18

Anvil ... all of them go back to Metal on Metal.

"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 15:16

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Posted: March 03 2009 at 15:13

Totally Agre. Stratovarius deserves to enter although they play mostly melodic powermetal. But when you listen to some tracks of "Visions" or "Elements. Part I" you must admit that sometimes is more than just simple power metal.

And yes... If Nightwish deserves to be here I wonder why Stratovarius are not in this list

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 17:20

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Hard to say if Stratovarius is a Prog Metal band, for me. I believe that 90% of Classic Metal Revival bands are Prog Metal, in one way or another.

You see dream Child, Syslesia or Heavenly... There are not Prog Mtal bands?

For me... These bands are Prog Metal at the same level of Stratovarius!

So your saying, if they are prog metal at the same level of Stratovarious, then they're not actually prog metal then? Wink

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 08:41

Hard to say if Stratovarius is a Prog Metal band, for me. I believe that 90% of Classic Metal Revival bands are Prog Metal, in one way or another.

You see dream Child, Syslesia or Heavenly... There are not Prog Mtal bands?

For me... These bands are Prog Metal at the same level of Stratovarius!

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 06:38

^ of course, take any time you need. But instead of taking a lot of time to rate and tag all your albums, you could also try a different approach and whenever you listened to an album and you have a minute (literally a minute - doesn't take longer) you can submit some info for it. I think I'll mention that on the FAQ page of PF ... I have a feeling that many people greatly overestimate the time needed for submitting the basic info. Embarrassed

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 06:18

Yeah I use your site frequently and I might take you up on that offer sometime in the future Mike

. Right now I have my hands full here though.

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 01:26

UMUR wrote:

I feel the same way Mike. I would love to review the albums

, but I don´t vote for an addition

You can always rate, tag or review them at Progfreak.com ... there you can also vote on their progressiveness status. Smile

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Posted: January 22 2009 at 00:14

Ah nuts, I missed about a page worth of discussion LOL

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 23:51

I feel the same way Mike. I would love to review the albums

, but I don´t vote for an addition

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 16:09

As much as I've been a negative ninny through these discussions, I wouldn't mind breaking out those albums again to review them

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 16:05

Cheers guys, I've asked the Admin team for a decision.

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 13:56

^I offered myself to add Avantasia and will do it the next weeks, after I clear some issues here at home that are taking more time than usual. About Stratovarius, if Scott is on it, then the Admin team has to analyze.

As I said, I don't support Stratovarius for prog-metal, but I do for prog-related. They're as related to prog as bands (sadly) listed in prog-metal as Nightwish.

Someone mentioned Sonata Arctica. They could fit in part thanks to their last album, "Unia".

Helloween? Not the same.

Whoever hears all of this bands as sounding the same is obviously not one that listens to a lot of metal in general. I understand. It happened the same to me in the past with, for example, death metal (I mean LOOONG time ago - like 8 years) when everybody sounded the same to me. Obviously, then I learned and listened and that seems like a complete stupid thing to think on my part. It's like most of post rock, with some exceptions. Until you really listen to it constantly, everything sounds the same. Something similar happens to me with mainstream genres like reggaeton or most pop-hip/hop... wait... in this last cases I think I'm right...

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 13:54

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Hmmm, complex compositional structures, utilizing elements from jazz, blues, classical symphonic and symphonic prog; planned use of dissonances and asynchron musical and rhythmical elements equals power metal?

Man, I have listened to power metal bands for 20+ years now. Guess all of these bands were tagged the wrong way by metal specialists then...

After a close listen to last two albums, you are right, Suspyre is prog metal. Retract my words about them as power metal band

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 12:48

Bob, if the admin team approves Stratovarius for prog related I am willing to write up a bio and add their albums to their page.

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 12:44

If anyone would like to take on adding Stratovarius to Prog Related, please let me know and I will approach the admin team to see if they wll approve them for that category.

Avantasia were certainly approved for prog related Mike. Was it one of Jody's maybe?

Edited by Easy Livin - January 21 2009 at 12:50

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 12:17

This ecuation could be used:

Stratovarious= Prog Related. Fair

Edited by Alberto Muñoz - January 21 2009 at 12:18

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Posted: January 21 2009 at 09:18

I fully understand the frustration <B>Bogdan</B>. You see other bands on PA that you deem less progressive than Stratovarius and you think it´s unfair that those bands have been added when Stratovarius are rejected. I feel exactly the same way about some of the bands that I´ve suggested for tech/ extreme metal that has been rejected, but you have to accept the decisions of the teams. Not without stating your opinion of course and if you have enough good and well thought out arguments ( pretty hard for some of us sometimes when english is our second or third language, but that´s the conditions) it is possible that a rejected act will be re-considered. I´ve seen it happen. In the case of Stratovarius it seems that the prog metal team is very certain in their decision though, but it seems that there is a door open in prog-related. I still don´t agree with prog-related ( or a PA addition at all) but it seems that the prog-related team at least has agreed to discuss the band and that´s positive IMO.

And remember that bitching about bands that have been added doesn´t really help, because they can´t be removed and it will not help getting Stratovarius added to state that they should be here because this and this band are here ( I do it myself sometimes, but it´s a bad argument that is seldom accepted, and quite often it annoys people).