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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 11:24
 Danbo: Nope.Think song title.....
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 12:06

Found it. "Over the Hills and Far Away"

I stole this off a website: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2406/othafa.html

This comes from the Houses of the Holy lyric booklet, so the lyrics are accurate. The first obvious connection is the title, "Over the Hills and Far Away", which refers to The Hobbit. Bilbo, Gandalf, and the band of dwarves go over the hills (the Misty Mountains) and far away. The last part may have a loose connection to the works, but I doubt it. However, the first four lines need a closer look. I believe that this describes when Bilbo finds the Ring of Power. The "Lady" is actually the Ring. It "has the love" Bilbo needs, as in it has the power to make him disappear and escape from the caves. It has more than enough love, however, since Bilbo obviously doesn't need all that power, and it ends up getting him and Frodo into a mess. But Bilbo likes the Ring, and wants it to "walk a while" with him. And it has so much power, too. Hairfoot, an esteemed Tolkien/Zeppelin lover sees a connection with the last part as well. He suggests the last stanza "could reference a large number of things in Hob and LOTR. The two most prominent are At the Gate of Moria--Gandalf trying to puzzle out the entrance phrase "Speak friend...." The other is the guessing game, or more properly known as the Riddle Game." I don't have any quotes for the interpretations on this song, since it's fairly obvious, and the quotes would have to be long passages for anyone to get anything out of them. I hope this is easy to understand and that the reader makes the connection. As with all, I welcome comments and corrections.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:14

 Hoo-rah for Danbo! Clap Though you have technically cheated by finding the answer via the Web, that's the song I had in mind. (In your defence, I didn't say not to do so, on this one.)

I think that only the title really works. That guy's analysis of the lyrics seems to me to be really stretching the Zep/Tolkien link beyond all credibility! I think that the "lady" in the lyrics is simply a human female; thus we have a love song. (Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.) The line "I live for my dreams, and a pocket full of gold," however could  be another "nod" to Bilbo & The Hobbit.

"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:35
I liked the idea of the lady standing for The One Ring... very poetical (if that's the right word in English)...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2004 at 16:54

The Lady, Yes........

However, didn't you learn yer leason about cigars on a previous thread, Peter?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:42
The rain song : "Keepers of the gloom" ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2004 at 17:05
Check out Paco Fox's posts. "Keepers of the gloom" belongs to terrorists, not Tolkien.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2004 at 09:11

terrible...

Peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2004 at 14:10

oehgabugabuga... how about some camel +lotr

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2004 at 13:23
Well I'd say something about linking Tolkien and Glass Hammer or Blind Guardian, but thosetwo bands had full albums that were "set" in Middle Earth as it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2004 at 02:28

Peter:

You may have missed one!

In No Quarter: "They choose the path where no-one goes."  An oblique reference to the Mines of Moria?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2004 at 10:30
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Peter:

You may have missed one!

In No Quarter: "They choose the path where no-one goes."  An oblique reference to the Mines of Moria?

Peace.

Ermm Perhaps just that line, but not the song, as "they give no quarter" (no mercy) would not be a good description of the Fellowship, who, being good, certainly do give quarter. (They spare Wormtongue, etc.)

I think that "No Quarter" is simply swords and sorcery-themed, but not specific to Tolkien.

The problem here is that almost any lyric can be "made to fit" a Tolkien analysis (show me a lyric & I'll link it to LOTR!), much like people can impose many different interpretations upon the Bible, to suit their particular agendas. We often see what we want or expect to see, which is not necessarily what's really there!



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Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 06:15
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

almost any lyric can be "made to fit" a Tolkien analysis (show me a lyric & I'll link it to LOTR!)


OK, Peter - try this on for size......

"my pink half of the drainpipe, seperates me from you....."

Bonzo Dog Band 1968


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 14:11

Okay Peter,

 

What band wrote this bit of Tolkien?

Hint; 90's prog.

If you find yourself aching
For a cold cup of Entwash
A walk in the moonlight or some Longbottom Leaf
May the leeward side find you
The sun never blind you
The good book remind you
Of the love that we share



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 18:00

Uh oh! You've got me there, Danbo! My knowledge of 90s prog is very limited. Until I found this site a few months back, I didn't even know that true prog was being written anymore! (I am trying to listen to -- and review -- more current stuff now, though.)

I won't cheat via Google, but I'll take a wild guess: Pendragon?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 18:02

Who?

I've never heard Pendragon, Fantasy Prog?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 18:34

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

almost any lyric can be "made to fit" a Tolkien analysis (show me a lyric & I'll link it to LOTR!)


OK, Peter - try this on for size......

"my pink half of the drainpipe, seperates me from you....."

Bonzo Dog Band 1968

Geek Jim, the answer is laughably obvious: The lyrics you quote are an oblique reference to the dwarves being put into barrels ("drainpipes") to escape the wood elves in The Hobbit. (The barrels separate the dwarves from the elves.) There is also a parallel -- but less obvious -- reference to Pippin pouring pints down his throat ("pink drainpipe") at the Prancing Pony, until his subsequent tipsy indisgressions threaten to separate him from the fuming Frodo.

Stern SmileTo fully comprehend the import of these arcane but beautiful words, however, you must first ingest the same perilously near-lethal cocktail of consciousness-expanding hallucinogens that the lyricist  did before he penned such an immortal line.

(I suggest that you have "911" ready on the auto-dial before embarking upon your inner quest for enlightenment, Grasshopper....) Dead

Good luck!

What else you got? LOL



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2004 at 18:45
Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Who?

I've never heard Pendragon, Fantasy Prog?

Whoops! I meant to say Nimrodel, whose excellent Gandalf-themed song, "The White Rider" appears in MP3 format on the archives. Could it be them?

PS: My review of Pendragon's "Not of this World" is in the works. Stay tuned!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2004 at 00:55

Danbo:

An easy one: that's Echolyn.  Now try these two, from different bands (note that they are not necessarily prog bands):

1.  "On his white horse Shadowfax, Ol' Gandalf gallops into town, I bet that old Istari Chief, wants some Longbottom Leaf.  "

2.  "Now all you Boffins and Bolgers, Bracegirdles and Proudfeet, I'm the skinny hobbit with all the fat beats. My name is Merry and I'm five feet tall, I used to mess stuff up at Brandybuck Hall. My man Bilbo's older than Gerontius Took, Yeah you can read all about it in the big Red Book."

Good luck!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2004 at 17:11
"Panama Red" Based on the performance by The New Riders of the Purple Sage
"Longbottom Leaf" Parody by Johnny D
 
Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf
It gets those hobbits stoned beyond belief
Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf

On his white horse Shadowfax
Ol' Gandalf gallops into town
I bet that old Istari Chief
Wants some
Longbottom Leaf

Sauron don't know the Ring's nearby
'Cause Gondor keeps him occupied
Frodo, Smeagol, and Sam are
Sneakin' 'cross the moutainside

All Middle-Earth is fightin'
To fend-off Mordor's genocide
And when the war is over,
Longbottom Leaf will get 'em high

Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf
It gets those hobbits stoned beyond belief
Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf

On his long legs, big ol' Strider
Comes a-hikin' into town
I bet that big ol' Ranger Chief
Wants some
Longbottom Leaf

Every hobbit down in Southfarthing
Grows Longbottom in their yard
It springs up quickly like a weed, so,
Growin' it's not hard

So if things get too confusing, hobbits,
Forget about your grief
And pass around that Hobbit-Hashpipe full of
Longbottom Leaf

Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf
It gets those hobbits stoned beyond belief
Longbottom Leaf
Longbottom Leaf

On his way to The Grey Havens
Elrond breezes into town
That old immortal Elven Chief
Wants some
Longbottom Leaf

 
 
 
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Lord of the Rhymes:
 
Is Gondor in the house?
Is Rivendell in the house?
Where the shire at?
Yo Treebeard my brother are you in the house?
Where the elf girls at?

Hobbiton it’s on!!!

I’m Quickbeam with the masterplan
I’m Bombadil with the mic in my hand
We’re Lords of the Rhymes from a far off land
And We’ll Rock this joint with our hobbit band

Mirror, mirror on the wall
Who’s the greatest hobbit of them all
Bilbo, Bilbo Baggins he’s only 3 feet tall

Well my name is Gimli
I’m a f**king dwarf !
I been slaying mutherf**kers
from the south to the north
That ain’t Mirkwood I’m choppin with my battleaxe
I’m on an orc stampede like Shadowfax

Now all you Boffins and Bolgers, Bracegirdles and Proudfeet
I’m the skinny hobbit with all the fat beats
My name is Merry and I’m five feet tall
I used to f**k sh*t up at Brandybuck hall
My man Bilbo’s older than Gerontius Took
Yeah you can read about it in a big Red Book.

Quikbeam on the scene
All the elf girls scream
Like a tree, That’s me
I Like to keep it green.
It’s the chronic pipeweed that I’m smoking
When I get high I spin tales like Tolkien.

Well I’m a hobbit warrior short and stout
I got the f**kin beats that will turn you out.
I’ll light you up like Longbottom leaf.
Cause the orcs smoke the shwag, but we got the kief.

I’m Quickbeam with the masterplan
I’m Bombadil with the mic in my hand
We’re Lords of the Rhymes from a far off land
And We’ll Rock this joint with our hobbit band.

Yo Beam, Yo Dil
It’s time to get ill !!!
Light up the mic like a Silmaril
Frodo’s on the lam with Pippin and Sam
But you can call him “Underhill.”

I named the nameless hills and dells
I drank from yet untasted wells
Goin’ mad off the hook just like a Numenorean
I got more rhymes than there’s leaves in Lothlorien.

Yo, I’m harder than a Mithril coat
A hundred is the number of the orcs I smote
I battled Helms Deep and I took Minas Tirith
If you don’t watch out, I’ll make your ass dissappeareth.

He’s Smeagol, not Deagol
He step up to the mic, he look regal
He’s mean, he’s green,
Gollum beat box like you never seen.

Go Gollum!

I’m Quickbeam with the masterplan
I’m Bombadil with the mic in my hand
We’re Lords of the Rhymes from a far off land
And We’ll Rock this joint with our hobbit band

My rhymes are hotter than the cracks of doom.
The orcs got bass, but we got boom.
Me and Dil be rockin rooms
From the Misty Mountains to the Gulf of Lhun.
I’m the King Ad Hoc!
I will be sire.
I was born Aragorn,
But you can call me Strider.

I’m Bombadil and I’ll gladly sing
I got the song for everything.
I got the number for Old Man Willow
Bright blue my jacket is and my boots are yellow.
Elbereth Gilthoniel, we still remember we who dwell.
On the his far land beneath the trees
Thy starlight on the Western seas.
Elbereth! Gilthoniel !
Silvren penna miriel
O menel aglar elenath
Na chaerad palan diriel

Which means…

Elf booty got soul!
Elf girls like to rock’n’roll!

Elf booty got soul!
Elf girls like to rock’n’roll!
 
 
 
 
 
Alreetie alrighty,
 
Hilarious stuff maani.
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