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The Quiet One
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:46 |
U2 are overrated
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:51 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:53 |
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mrcozdude
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 19:39 |
Vompatti wrote:
Isn't U2 a Christian band with good music? |
Johnny Cash,a huge christian though walk the line doesnt touch on it.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 20:17 |
Vompatti wrote:
Isn't U2 a Christian band with good music?
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No, but Neal Morse is.
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jammun
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Posted: December 10 2008 at 21:01 |
As usual, Zappa had it right all along. A band should be free to sing any lyrics, good or bad (and in my experience the good far outnumbers the bad). If you don't like the lyrics, don't listen to it. This advice should apply to Christians, Muslims, satan worshipers, lovers of '50s shlock, and everything in between.
Frank usually pushed the envelope to prove his point, hence Have I Offended Someone?
I'm no fan of lyrics that promote violence, consumerism, or rabid intolerance. But they do, at least here in the U.S., have a right to exist. Our choice is to ignore them if offensive.
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The T
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 00:15 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Hi Rocktopus - Rush proved that you can be very interesting and sing about Trees, Cars and many other things other than love!!! |
That's right... but you know what would be even more difficult?
To write about LOVE when you can't feel it.
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:24 |
Hello explodingjosh!!!!! Happy now!! !!
You know - I am remembering Dave Mustaine's recent controversy when he refused to take Megadeth to a concert because Rotting Christ were appearing. Why on earth would someone call a band that?!!
Another thing - why are so mant Death and Black metal bands named after occult demons?
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Dean
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:36 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Another thing - why are so mant Death and Black metal bands named after occult demons? |
Unlike Progband, like, I don't know.... King Crimson maybe.
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:39 |
Hello Dean -King Crimson aint no Demon - Opeth is!!!
Have you listened to Karmakanic's new one????? Bloody brilliant!!!!
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Dean
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:46 |
he who still cannot quote wrote:
Hello Dean -King Crimson aint no Demon - Opeth is!!!
Have you listened to Karmakanic's new one????? Bloody brilliant!!!! |
The band name was derived from the word "Opet", taken from the Wilbur Smith novel Sunbird, which meant "city of the moon".
The name King Crimson was coined by lyricist Peter Sinfield as a synonym for Beelzebub, prince of demons. According to Fripp, Beelzebub would be an anglicised form of the Arabic phrase "B'il Sabab", meaning "the man with an aim"
...I rest my case Your Honour.
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:50 |
Yep - I don't disagree but Opeth is still a major occult demon!!
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:52 |
Dean - you really know your stuff - what Band is currently your favorite????
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Dean
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 09:21 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Dean - you really know your stuff - what Band is currently your favorite???? |
no more than any other prog geek - however, that's going off topic and you're not going to trick me into doing that, no siree bob, off topic is definitely somewhere I ain't going, whoah boy, far be it for me to take a derail a topic by changing the subject mid stream and start talking about anything other than the subject in question, which just happens to be worrying lyrical content of songs and not whether I like Pink Floyd or have heard Karmechanic or rate the latest Témpano Pendragon or Lunatic Soul album or not - pah, you see that would be a bad thing to do and not something I should encourage or be seen to be participating in, so yes, you want real disturbing lyrics, not some silly people shouting nonsense about demons and wizzards, try Steven Wilson's Cover Version IV - deeply disturbing and very unsettling.
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 09:23 |
Hey - I like Demons and Wizards - the Uriah Heep one!!!!
Karmakanic don't mention killing someone or Christ / Satan once!!!! They are amazing and don't have to resort to anything on the borderline!!
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el böthy
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:12 |
Vompatti wrote:
I fully agree with slaver here. Good lyrics (i.e. the kind that don't ruin the music but add something to it) are always intelligent and insightful at least on some level, and I can't really imagine anti-religious or senselessly violent lyrics being anything but stupid and embarrassing. To me such lyrics imply that the band and especially the lyric-writer don't really have anything constructive to say and that they seemingly have no idea what music and art in general should be about.
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And do you? Getting back to topic. I think anyone should write about what they want. It´s obviously in you to listen to them or not.
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:14 |
There is so much to write lyrics about - I aint seen a symphony written about Bald Eagles yet!!!!!
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Dean
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:17 |
symphonies generally don't have lyrics...
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:19 |
Hey Dean - you're right once again - what about a concept album about Bald Eagles!!!!!
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:20 |
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