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Petrovsk Mizinski 
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 Posted: December 01 2008 at 20:16 |
^Okay, this thread didn't need to be bumped 
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UMUR
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 13:25 |
 You gotta love it. I used to be a big fan of Stratovarius but I wouldnīt consider them progressive. One of the best live acts I ever saw though.
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Diaby
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 13:38 |
 Pafnutij wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Pafnutij wrote:
No, I dont think you can be power metal and prog simultaneously.
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Do you know Adagio and Symphony X? 
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Well yeah SyX is quite power-metallish and I think DT's Images and Words is too, but they are different Stratovarius and their clones cause they use that power-metal approach in a more creative way (damn, i guess there IS prog power metal then ) |
Could you explain what's power metal in I&W?
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 14:11 |
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Stratovarius are definitely prog. They even have keyboards, don't they?
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 14:16 |
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They're listed in The Progressive Rock Files by Jerry Lucky. I was surprised to see them there.
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The T
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 23:05 |
I love the band and just out of love I'll be happy to see them. But prog they really aren't.
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b_olariu
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 11:15 |
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Hahahaha , Yes Stratovarius is one of the best bands ever, I like'em a lot. They are in between I think, melodic power metal with prog leanings. So an entry in PA I think is fair
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Jared
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 11:17 |
oh no....please don't try and add Stratovarius... not even to 'related'...they just aren't Prog, or even influenced by... 
Edited by fandango - January 20 2009 at 11:18
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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b_olariu
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 11:33 |
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WHy, I don't want to begun with if one is added then why not other. You guys I think you are not open minded, or you are to much, thats why is Metallica here , and more than 25 % of so called prog metal bands. So don't start with not even influenced by.
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crimson87
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 11:34 |
fandango wrote:
oh no....please don't try and add Stratovarius... not even to 'related'...they just aren't Prog, or even influenced by... |
The Yes influence in keyboards was the first thing I noted when I first listened to them. And I didn't even knew Yes!
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 12:44 |
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I've seen them listed as prog in a couple of places, but this matter has been discussed to death already on ProgArchives and we should respect the decisions of the genre teams, who have rejected them.
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Jared
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 12:46 |
King By-Tor wrote:
I've seen them listed as prog in a couple of places, but this matter has been discussed to death already on ProgArchives and we should respect the decisions of the genre teams, who have rejected them. |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:15 |
fandango wrote:
King By-Tor wrote:
I've seen them listed as prog in a couple of places, but this matter has been discussed to death already on ProgArchives and we should respect the decisions of the genre teams, who have rejected them. |
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Clappies seconded. This one has gone on too long.
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Jared
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 13:35 |
^^ yes, do you think we could find a friendly Shed affiliated Admin to lock it?... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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The T
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 14:04 |
I would agree with a prog-related consideration... not a prog one, as I said before.
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crimson87
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 15:52 |
There is something about Stratovarius , not an average metal band to me. Their music is more technical (while somewhat unoriginal) and they had some good musicians among them Like Timo Tolkki and Jens Johansson.
And their first record was released in 1989 but they were formed since the mid 80's the same time as Helloween. They are at least as important as some of the bands under the prog metal.
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UMUR
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 16:16 |
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So if Stratovarius is prog-related how about a band like Necrophagist? They also use neo-classical elements along with a thousand other metal bands in different metal sub-genres. Now I aggitated for an inclusion of Necrophagist but have gotten wiser since they were discussed and I donīt see why we should start adding metal bands just because they got neo-classical elements in their music when the rest of their music is so obviously basic heavy metal.
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 16:28 |
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From what I remember of Stratovarious they were excellent instrument masturbators. If that translates into progressive is another matter entirely ;-)
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Jared
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 16:29 |
Windhawk wrote:
From what I remember of Stratovarious they were excellent instrument masturbators. If that translates into progressive is another matter entirely ;-) |
whatever it is PA are paying you Olav, it just isn't enough...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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CPicard
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Posted: January 20 2009 at 17:15 |
Windhawk wrote:
From what I remember of Stratovarious they were excellent instrument masturbators. If that translates into progressive is another matter entirely ;-)
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