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    Posted: November 26 2008 at 11:45
The second match of the final 4! This should prove to be interesting.

Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online streaming).

Rush's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609
Gentle Giant's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=118

As always, discussions are encouraged.

Recap:
Semi-finals
D1: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. Van der Graaf Generator         (47-56)

D1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53562&PN=1


Round 3
C1: Area v. Emerson, Lake and Palmer         (21-41)
C2: Opeth v. Van der Graaf Generator        (45-62)
C3: Rush v. Magma        (47-40)
C4: Le Orme v. Gentle Giant          (11-37)

C1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53258
C2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53336&PN=1
C3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53399&PN=1
C4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53480&PN=1


Round 2
B1: Marillion v. Area       (32-35)
B2: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. Tangerine Dream    (37-25)
B3: Can v. Opeth      (31-34)
B4: Van der Graaf Generator v. Samla Mammas Manna    (47-12)
B5: Rush v. Kayo Dot            (46-20)
B6: Henry Cow v. Magma       (17-24)
B7: Le Orme v. Hawkwind       (27-9)
B8: Univers Zero v. Gentle Giant       (17-34)

B1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52648&PN=1
B2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52714
B3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52795
B4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52869
B5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52956&PN=1
B6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53056&PN=1
B7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53114&PN=1
B8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53181&PN=1


Round 1
A1:  Mahavishnu Orchestra v. Marillion      (24-28)
A2:  Gong v. Area    (18-19)
A3:  Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. The Flower Kings      (22-14)
A4:  The Residents v. Tangerine Dream    (12-15)
A5:  Can v. Dream Theater    (42-37)
A6:  Echolyn v. Opeth    (11-18)
A7:  Van der Graaf Generator v. The Mars Volta    (54-18)
A8:  Samla Mammas Manna v. Radiohead      (27-26)
A9:  Rush v. Tool    (55-21)
A10: Meshuggah v. Kayo Dot     (15-21)
A11: Henry Cow v. Amon Duul II      (17-12)
A12: Soft Machine v. Magma      (23-25)
A13: Ayreon v. Le Orme      (26-29)
A14: Ozric Tentacles v. Hawkwind         (21-27)
A15: Koenjihyakkei v. Univers Zero       (10-17)
A16: Gentle Giant v. Camel        (41-29)

A1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2
A2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1
A3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1
A4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1
A5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1
A6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778
A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855
A8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1
A9: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011
A10: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091
A11: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1
A12: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246
A13: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336
A14: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1
A15: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1
A16: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52571
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Yeah.  1st Vote in for Rush!!!!
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GO RUSH!!!!
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Not another Rush poll!  ConfusedDisapprove
https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays
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Points: 1263 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2008 at 11:49
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Not another Rush poll!  ConfusedDisapprove

Don't worry, this one's official! The rest aren't as good as this one.

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Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Not another Rush poll!  ConfusedDisapprove

Don't worry, this one's official! The rest aren't as good as this one.


Indeed. This has a reason to it.

Unlike all those other ones. Dead
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GO RUSH!
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Do I really need to say where my vote went to?
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Gentle Giant.
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Gentle Giant. They are just a thousand times better. More creative, more talented, and less obnoxious on the vocals. Rush is great, but they never wrote Knots.
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And Knots isn't obnoxious on the vocals?
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Rush at the moment. I bet it's because i havn't listened to Gentle Giant in a while, and have forgotten just how awesome they are.
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Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

And Knots isn't obnoxious on the vocals?


Nope, it's excellent

Gentle Giant for me, although I doubt this will be an eclectic final. Hopefully VDGG will slaughter Rush
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Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Gentle Giant. They are just a thousand times better. More creative, more talented, and less obnoxious on the vocals. Rush is great, but they never wrote Knots.


'Knots' is one of the last songs I'd use to prove GG's superiority over Rush. It may be a complex song, but I find it really unexciting. Overall though the trio of Octopus-Glass House-Power & Glory settle this in GG's favour comfortably.
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I'd expected that this might come down to VdGG vs. GG, but the Rushfan force is strong.  I like Rush considerably, and there was a time when I was in my early teens that Hemispheres and Fragile were my pillars of Prog.  I only discovered Gentle Giant a few years ago, and it was my favourite band.  Over the last couple of years my GG interest has waned considerably ('twas my favourite band when I joined ProgArchives), but I still think GG is very good.  Acquiring the Taste, in particular, I loved, but then I loved GG's first eight studio albums (and Playing the Fool, of course), but thought GG's final three albums abhorrent.  I vote for GG.  The musicians are more versatile, there is greater variety in the music, interesting twists, the music is tight, there's good jazzy qualities, plus there's the academic music influence. GG is more fun for me, and beautiful for me, and importantly for me, the music is much quirkier, and I like quirky music.  Goes back to listen to one of my favourite GG tracks; it's off In a Glass House -- "Way of Life." Next stop "The Moon is Down" (my traditional favourite GG track).  These polls are good for revisiting music.
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Damn this is perhaps the worse thing about this poll, not knowing so much about the other band so the vote goes to the one you are already familiar. But I know someday I'll get into GG, 'cause they are also one of the titan bands.

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Aw, I love Knots. Oh well. Maybe the song In a Glass House is a better example of why they are far more exciting as a band than Rush. Plus, if you look at the ratio of good albums to lame ones, Gentle Giant has 8:3, while Rush has 5:13. In my opinion.
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Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:



'Knots' is one of the last songs I'd use to prove GG's superiority over Rush...


And it still works.

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GG - just for Three Friends
yet you still have time!
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I enjoy "Knots", but it sounds too forced to me in its construction.  I prefer "On Reflection", "Design" (despite it being rather forced by design), and others.  If I were to (generally) recommend two must-hear GG songs, they would be the related ones, "Pantagruel's Nativity" and "Advent of Panurge".  The tracks the got me into GG were "Free Hand" and "In a Glass House" (which I acquired before getting any GG albums).

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