Rush vs The Beatles

ModernRocker79 wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: It seems people here seem to think it's a sin not to like the people. If I must be totally honest, I don't really like the Beatles at all. Yeah, I understand their legacy, their innovations etc, but pretty much most of their music doesn't get along with me at all. And yes, I've tried listening to them too. Didn't like it much at all. I voted Rush because I at least like some of their music (some of their songs in particular, I like A LOT) and because it was a poll of what your preference was, not a question of "OMG WHO INFLUENCED WHO BEATLES BETTER THEY INFELUNCED RUSH". Ask yourself if you simply voted for the Beatles because they are perceived to be more influential or because you actually LIKE THEIR MUSIC MORE. If you voted for the Beatles simply because they are more influential, yet you like Rush's music more, you have entirely missed the point of the poll and have been quite dishonest to other PA users and yourself. Vote for who you genuinely like more, not who influenced who. Sure, Bach came before the Romantic greats, but I still like Chopin and Liszt more.... much  more in fact. Go figure      In my opinion you are insulting people here or its sour grapes on your part. You think people can't decide who they like better here? Many people who like the Beatles better are showing respect to Rush by complimenting them.  Its old news The Beatles are way more popular than Rush around the world. The majority of good musicians (influential or not) already proclaimed the Beatles as the greatest rock band ever. Yes, I said rock band - that is what they produced, rock music. Today we have thousands of different music classifications, but this was not the case in the sixties. What irritates most of Beatle haters which I am not saying you are is the fact that they were very good and very popular at the same time, and Beatle haters firmly believe this is physically impossible. Funniest thing is that the fabs were the biggest idols and had a major influence over most of the bands loved by Beatle haters,

Okay, but the "Greatest" is always going to be subjective.

I don't think I need to state again I understand how influential and popular they have been.


"What irritates most of Beatle haters which I am not saying you are is the fact that they were very good and very popular at the same time, and Beatle haters firmly believe this is physically impossible"
Well, I would hardly call myself a Beatles hater, correct. I don't go out of my way to make posts here, or on other forum boards about me hating them, I just tend to leave them alone as I think other people should feel free to enjoy it as they will.
But that doesn't change the fact I don't think their music is particularly good to my ears, influential or not, so to me, they aren't the greatest rock band ever.
Maybe one day, I'll warm to them more, I'll still give them that chance, but for now, I have other music I want to discover.

Peter wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: Peter wrote:  Shakespeare vs Steven King!   Okay, the newer entrants here are quite good at what they do, but C'MON NOW!!!!   Some people have no sense of the enormous cultural debt owed to the pioneers and trail-blazers of the past, I guess....    Now let me go to bed -- enough with the goofy "VS" polls already!      "Rush vs The Beatles" Ha! waddaconcept! So, you're effectively saying, just because the Beatles were the 'pioneers and trailblazers" of the past, we have to like them more and should have voted for them? Okay, the Beatles were influential, as I already stated. But I only like about, 2 of their songs, at most. I like entire albums of Rush, hence I voted Rush. But what, because they aren't the Beatles, my opinion is no longer valid? Absolutely ridiculous. Jimi Hendrix was also massively influential, but he doesn't even figure in my top 50 favorite guitarists. Does that mean I don't have " a sense of the enormous cultural debt owed to the pioneers and trail-blazers of the past"? It just means I like many other guitarists more. No, I'm certainly NOT saying that. Don't worry, I was well aware of the logical weakness of my post even as i wrote it, but as with many others who've responded, I was struck by the profound dissimilarity between the bands, and was not taking the poll entirely seriously.   So please don't take my post seriously -- I was delirious from a lack of sleep, anyway.

HughesJB4 wrote: Peter wrote:  Shakespeare vs Steven King!   Okay, the newer entrants here are quite good at what they do, but C'MON NOW!!!!   Some people have no sense of the enormous cultural debt owed to the pioneers and trail-blazers of the past, I guess....    Now let me go to bed -- enough with the goofy "VS" polls already!      "Rush vs The Beatles" Ha! waddaconcept! So, you're effectively saying, just because the Beatles were the 'pioneers and trailblazers" of the past, we have to like them more and should have voted for them? Okay, the Beatles were influential, as I already stated. But I only like about, 2 of their songs, at most. I like entire albums of Rush, hence I voted Rush. But what, because they aren't the Beatles, my opinion is no longer valid? Absolutely ridiculous. Jimi Hendrix was also massively influential, but he doesn't even figure in my top 50 favorite guitarists. Does that mean I don't have " a sense of the enormous cultural debt owed to the pioneers and trail-blazers of the past"? It just means I like many other guitarists more.

Rush by a country mile.

 Shakespeare vs Steven King!

Edited by Peter - November 20 2008 at 02:02

It seems people here seem to think it's a sin not to like the people.

If I must be totally honest, I don't really like the Beatles at all.
Yeah, I understand their legacy, their innovations etc, but pretty much most of their music doesn't get along with me at all.
And yes, I've tried listening to them too. Didn't like it much at all.
I voted Rush because I at least like some of their music (some of their songs in particular, I like A LOT) and because it was a poll of what your preference was, not a question of "OMG WHO INFLUENCED WHO BEATLES BETTER THEY INFELUNCED RUSH".

Ask yourself if you simply voted for the Beatles because they are perceived to be more influential or because you actually LIKE THEIR MUSIC MORE.
If you voted for the Beatles simply because they are more influential, yet you like Rush's music more, you have entirely missed the point of the poll and have been quite dishonest to other PA users and yourself.

Vote for who you genuinely like more, not who influenced who.

Sure, Bach came before the Romantic greats, but I still like Chopin and Liszt more.... much  more in fact.
Go figure


Edited by HughesJB4 - November 19 2008 at 20:19

jimidom wrote: What a poll! For me it's almost like choosing a favorite child. However, I have to give the ultimate nod to the Fab Four. Althought Rush is one of the greatest bands of all time, the Beatles were a cultural phenomenon.

Beatles, of course, but they are so different!

zachfive wrote: I'd like to see another poll. What band has more talented musicians? Regardless, The Beatles win in the influence department I'll give them that, but I'd say Rush has far much more musical integrity. The Beatles members solo stuff (excluding Lennon) i.e Wings and George Harrison does aboslutley no justice to their earlier work such as Sg.Peppers or Yellow Submarine.So as the opinions are stacked before me I vote for Rush, I'd say they have more consecutively great music and has "sold out" a heck of a lot less. ...shame on Mccartney, you use to play such a melodic bass and not such a boing piano

I'd like to see another poll.
What band has more talented musicians?

Regardless, The Beatles win in the influence department I'll give them that, but I'd say Rush has far much more musical integrity. The Beatles members solo stuff (excluding Lennon) i.e Wings and George Harrison does aboslutley no justice to their earlier work such as Sg.Peppers or Yellow Submarine.So as the opinions are stacked before me I vote for Rush, I'd say they have more consecutively great music and has "sold out" a heck of a lot less.

...shame on Mccartney, you use to play such a melodic bass and not such a boing piano