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The Quiet One 
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 Posted: November 18 2008 at 19:26 |
 someone_else wrote:
Let me compare the albums from the best periods of both bands:
Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, Yellow Submarine, The white double album and Abbey Road vs.
A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures and Signals.
Usually I prefer Rush, but it depends on the mood I'm in. I vote for Rush, even though they were far less influential than the Beatles. |
Here's how it would be in my opinion, trying to be objective: Beatles: Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR, The White Album and Abbey Road Rush: 2112, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures. Have in mind I haven't heard Hemispheres neither Permanent Waves, just adding them because they're classics for the Prog fan. I love Caress of Steel, but in some type of musical terms it would be like adding Let It Be. From what I heard from Rush fans and ratings, Counterparts is another classic.
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memowakeman
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 19:17 |
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I prefer Rush
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 12:59 |
Apples and oranges? More like a watermelon v. an olive.
You can't be serious to not vote for the Beatles.
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Roj
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 12:06 |
C'mon everybody who's not voted, get behind Toronto's finest.
If anybody knows any Rush fanboys who've not voted yet tell 'em to get on here pronto, there's a poll to win!
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trackstoni
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 05:27 |
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the least i can do for the Beatles is what i did a second ago , if they're involved in any polls , simply i have to stand up with them , for a million reasons and reason , they can simply win any poll even against my OWN BAND //////////////// take it easy on us fellows !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yur friend // TracksToni //
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 02:43 |
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Rush is good and all, but The Beatles are far superior.
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Yorkie X
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Posted: November 14 2008 at 01:55 |
At the present time the scores are Rush 43 votes The Beatles 43 votes ... its anybodies game 
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ModernRocker79
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 14:01 |
The Beatles I have to admit the Beatles for a mainstream band they were really progressive and even jazz music were not doing some of the things they were doing like backward guitar, drum looping to name a few. Some of their rhythms on "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" for example include a Balkan rhythm and a polyrhythm in different sections. Were they influenced by jazz?
"A Day in the Life", "I am the Walrus", "Within You, Without You", Strawberry Fields"... not really blues tunes, They were able to draw from diverse sources, like Indian classical music "Within You" uses a raga-like form that contains both major and minor thirds in different octaves, kind of a combination of mixolydian and Dorian modalities. Lennon used forms similar to Tibetan chants. McCartney and Lennon were both versed in the same types of cadential cycles that had evolved from Dixieland and Tin Pan Alley, the pop music of the previous era (and also a primary underpinning for jazz).
"Tomorrow Never Knows" is a very early Art-Rock song that was recorded even before the Velvet Underground. The song is influenced by Avant music and its weird sounds are produced by tape loops/samples with looped effects. The song uses an upfront drum 'n' bass sound with the looped effects not unlike many forms of Modern Music.
"Love You To" is a true use of Classical Indian Music in instrumentation, style and rhythm. There is nothing like it in rock music before this. Songs like "Eight Miles High", "Norwegian Wood and "See My Friends" are nothing like this.
I considered "Strawberry Fields Forever" true progressive rock songs. With its use of mellotron, Indian scales and two separate versions of one song into one. Strawberry Fields Forever" uses diminished chords that are common with jazz music. Then are changes time signatures often 4/4, 6/8, 3/4, 2/4. Hardly simple stuff. It helped invent Progressive Rock.
"Blue Jay Way" song based on some ancient Indian raga that uses the diminished 7th scale.
I think the Beatles were one of the biggest influences in early progressive rock.
Edited by ModernRocker79 - November 13 2008 at 14:07
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Roj
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:58 |
I like some stuff by The Beatles and really like a few of their tracks. I have also heard enough of their music to appreciate how important they were in the development of popular music. However, they are not really my cup of tea.
On the other hand I adore most of the music Rush has produced. Therefore for me this is an easy question. It's Rush for me.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:43 |
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A no-brainer, in my opinion. The Beatles were a lot more creative and a lot more groundbreaking.
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someone_else
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 05:22 |
Let me compare the albums from the best periods of both bands:
Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, Yellow Submarine, The white double album and Abbey Road vs.
A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures and Signals.
Usually I prefer Rush, but it depends on the mood I'm in. I vote for Rush, even though they were far less influential than the Beatles.
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BroSpence
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 02:48 |
The Beatles of course.
Rush was best between 1974 and 1981, and even though that was their best time period, they still couldn't come close to how good the Beatles were from 1965-1969. Plus Rush wrote that awful awful Trees song (during their good period!). The Beatles did not. Thats more than enough to sway me.
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Phil
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 02:01 |
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The Beatles - c'mon folks get real!
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tszirmay
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Posted: November 13 2008 at 01:41 |
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This is A"POLL"ING, First I won't vote because its sort of non sensical. There would never have been a RUSH had there not been the Beatles , just as Geddy! He will agree! I mean really , Helter Skelter !
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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jammun
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 20:26 |
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I always take the historical perspective on these things, so voted for the Beatles. Without them, Rush would have been produced by Phil Spector and would be singing follow-ups to My Boyfriend's Back.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 20:16 |
The Beatles.
Up until now, I don't like Rush very much.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 20:08 |
febus wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
I love the Beatles, but my nick is not Beatlesfan4.
It is actually sort of funny that you have this poll. A couple of years ago, the local sports talk radio station was going through a period of time where they did a bunch of NCAA tournament brackets with 64 teams for various items. The rock band item featured the Beatles as the number 1 seed and Rush as the 16th seed in their bracket. Random callers would be asked to pick their favorite band from which ever 2 they would be asked and the winner would move on. The DJs did hold a couple veto votes though. I didn't call in, but boy would they have been in for a shock if I had had this game as my choice. That would have been 1 veto used up very quickly.  |
And where's Rushfan number 1, 2 and 3?  |
That would be Alex, Geddy, and Neil. |
OooooH!!! i thought that was KBT, Naturalscience and Movingpic07 |
This is the easiest poll I've ever voted in.  I never did like the Beatles at all; I actually quite dislike them. And they're up against Rush. Hmm... 
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Zargus
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 18:32 |
Rush winning over the beatles? give me a break! Rush is an ok band but to be honest they dont do very much for me, the beatles isent exactly my favorite band ever ither but they beat rush any day of the week IMO.
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 18:22 |
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A stupid but interesting poll. I went with the Fabs, of course; if my house was burning down I'd definitely the Beatles albums first, but I'd try to salvage some Rush as well.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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JROCHA
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Posted: November 12 2008 at 18:12 |
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Rush over Beatles anyday
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