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    Posted: November 13 2008 at 08:12
Originally posted by superprog superprog wrote:

i always tried to give Eloy a chance but sorry they sound like bad second-rate Pink Floyd...........
 
LOLSmile ha ha Despite the fact that Pink Floyd was dead in early '80's , musicaly speaking, Eloy's music have a high standard in that same period. To me Eloy is among the best bands ever, and I will always choose them in a confrontation with Floyd. Clap
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Like Slartibartfast says, a lot of bad 'prog' albums are bad because they aren't really progressive, but instead resulted from legitimate artists losing their way over trends or money


Very good point.

Another example of this was the getting together of Steve Hackett & Steve Howe; couldn't go wrong, right? Had to be a huge epic progressive rock from two of prog-rock's giants, right?

Wrong

Have you heard GTR?

Appalling AOR friendly commercial twaddle

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Originally posted by Zeranna Zeranna wrote:

Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO


I was also rather disappointed with it. It wasn't horrific, in my opinion, but I think it's DT's worst album (beating out When Dream and Day Unite). Two stars, yeah, but I don't know if I call it horrific. Just painfully mediocre in every way.
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Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

Well, listen to the songs in the middle of The Mars Volta - Bedlam in Goliath album (with the exception of the goliath song which is listenable).




I agree. Rather useless album.
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Well, listen to the songs in the middle of The Mars Volta - Bedlam in Goliath album (with the exception of the goliath song which is listenable).
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i always tried to give Eloy a chance but sorry they sound like bad second-rate Pink Floyd...........
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2008 at 04:02
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Zeranna Zeranna wrote:

Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO
 
that's a really bright way for a n00b to win friends and influence people on this forum...Confused


True - I even gave it three starsShockedLOL, which has to mean something!

Unfortunately, the thread lends itself to such excesses.... Negative threads are never a very good idea, in my humble opinion,because they quickly descend into bashing.
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Originally posted by Zeranna Zeranna wrote:

Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO
 
that's a really bright way for a n00b to win friends and influence people on this forum...Confused
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

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Love the Obama graphic, where did you source it?
 
(Apologies for this post having nothing to do with music!)

Right click on the image to get the location.  You'll find it under properites.
 
 
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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

Couldn't agree more - on all of those! You really nailed it - good on ya!


Not sure if he actually nailed it. The thread asks for "Horiffically Bad PROGRESSIVE albums", and as far as I know, Under Wraps, Big Generator and Love Beach are nothing more than average/mediocre pop albums.

If the question would have asked Horiffically Bad Albums by Prog bands, well then yeah I agree he nailed it.
 
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Like Slartibartfast says, a lot of bad 'prog' albums are bad because they aren't really progressive, but instead resulted from legitimate artists losing their way over trends or money:  Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

As far as technically 'legitimate' prog - it's a little obscure, but the FInnish band Apollo's self-titled album is one of the worst pieces of toe jam I've ever heard.  And for some reason Warner actually felt the need to reissue it a few years back so an entire new generation could be turned off on prog music.   Read the reviews - there's  no point rehashing their insights here.

 
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Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

Couldn't agree more - on all of those! You really nailed it - good on ya!


Not sure if he actually nailed it. The thread asks for "Horiffically Bad PROGRESSIVE albums", and as far as I know, Under Wraps, Big Generator and Love Beach are nothing more than average/mediocre pop albums.

If the question would have asked Horiffically Bad Albums by Prog bands, well then yeah I agree he nailed it.
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Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO
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Points: 66588 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2008 at 15:35

Based on the above response my answer is anything that Jake Kobrin's ears find to be "horrifically good".  Explanation is self-explanatory.
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Any album ever made by Rush...

Do tell--don't fret, I'm no fanboy.



There's not much of an explanation, just that my ears categorize their music under the "Horrifically Bad" category.
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I can't think of anything I've heard that's really bad, I tend to reserve my 1 and 2 star reviews for releases that imo are badly done e.g.
Focus - Focus The Greatest Hits - cheapo package with no information on the origin of the tracks.
Be Bop Deluxe - Postcards from the Future - a band with too many similar compilations
Yes - Topography - not sure who this is aimed at. Another band with too many compilations.
ELP - Reworks. dodgy trance remixes of ELP tracks
 
Probably the biggest disappointment was the second Karfagen CD "The Space Between Us". I had high hopes for them but they then produced an album of new age lift music.
 
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.
Couldn't agree more - on all of those!  You really nailed it - good on ya!
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Points: 1184 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2008 at 20:33
Hum. Let's see. Kayo Dot: Dowsing Anemone with Copper Tongue, Pain of Salvation: Scarsick, everything ever classified as Zeuhl... Ouch

And hey, I almost forgot, BLIND GUARDIAN.LOL
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Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

STONEBEARD
 
Love the Obama graphic, where did you source it?
 
(Apologies for this post having nothing to do with music!)

Right click on the image to get the location.  You'll find it under properites.


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 10 2008 at 16:42
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Any album ever made by Rush...

Do tell--don't fret, I'm no fanboy.
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