PA's Battle to Stardom B5: Rush v. Kayo Dot

King By-Tor wrote: define this "higher level", because the influences I heard were pretty clear.

I think BLD has some more Crimson influences (among all the influences you can note...) than CotE and Dowsing. Again "as you can say Tool has Crimson influences, or Opeth has Camel influences". That's the "higher level" I'm talking , sorry if it sounded pretentious . Just to compare, a "middle level" would be, let's say, DT having influences of Maiden? They're clearer, what do you think?


Edited by AlexUC - October 31 2008 at 12:37

King By-Tor wrote: I think "higher level" was just bad wording. Maybe "minor" or "major" compared to "higher" and "lower"?

Oh god!! now I understand, fool of me  sorry, my english is not very good, sometimes I tend to confuse the meaning of some words I never wanted to say "KD is better than anything because they're innovative" or to mean "they are in a higher musical level", no no. Just to mention, I like KD, I like very much the TD releases because I think he's a good musician (I would never say he's a Zappa or something... for me, he's a very good young musician, nothing more), but KD is not my fav band, in fact I do prefer MofT, but even so, I just think KD is an innovative band, with many good and some not very good moments. Thank you for your correction, very much appreciated

King By-Tor wrote: Well I also happen to like to argue, so I suppose that didn't help

Arguing is the life-blood of this site.  It's Halloween; let there be blood!

i highly doubt that many who voted for rush have heard much of kayo dot at all. obviously they ones that posted here have heard them and i mean no disrespect but it does seem a little unfair.

that asside, the bands are extremely different in almost every respect. the people that rush appeals to are, in terms of musical tastes, much different than those that kayo dot appeals to.

but oh well. kayo dot easily for me, one of my favorite bands, if not the favorite. They're a band i feel that is one of the most important bands of the last 20 years.

 ill get around to writing reviews again soon but i think i summed up my choirs of the eye review, albeit with poor wording, bad sentence structure and a heavy amount of redundancy.

King By-Tor wrote: Well I also happen to like to argue, so I suppose that didn't help

Well, maybe, but this is not the first time my message is misunderstood for bad term using

In my particular isolated case, who do you really think I am going to vote for?  Seriously.  It seems that I have only heard Kayo Dot's worst album, but I very highly doubt it would really matter.

rushfan4 wrote: In my particular isolated case, who do you really think I am going to vote for?  Seriously.  It seems that I have only heard Kayo Dot's worst album, but I very highly doubt it would really matter.

I don't expect it would make any difference, and I expect there will be those who vote Rush who know all of KD's work, and perhaps a number who know a great deal of Rush's music (such as myself) who still vote KD.  It's not about who is better, it's who is preferred.  It gives the poll more substance when people post what they know.  I like both bands.  Such polls can be great for getting people to know more music.

That's very true, Scott, which is one reason why this is hardly an ideal match-up.  Leaving taste aside, no one approach is the correct one.  If two bands that I love are put up against each-other, and one has a much bigger discography than the other, the first thing I do is compare my most-liked albums by each band (so a one-shot wonder might win against a band with many releases if I think that album equal to the best by another, but I feel the other albums by the band with more albums are not up to the same quality -- consistency). Or I might give them a tie.  If one has many albums I feel are great over another that has limited albums that I feel are great, then I might well go with the one with more albums.  Then again, I might just feel like voting for the underdog.  I'm not always consistent.  It doesn't matter, but it's more insightful if people sort of explain where they're coming from.

EDIT: Maybe I'm kind of unusual in this regard, but I'm really interested in what people think and feel, how their minds work, and why they feel a certain way.  It's part of genuinely being interested in people, and in communication.


Edited by Logan - October 31 2008 at 16:49

Rush for me........several very good albums inc Hemispheres, 2112, Caress of Steel etc. Even have time for one of their 80s albums power Windows. Have a couple of Kayo Dot, and I must admit it doesn't get much airplay, as I find it a bit tough (challenging?) to get into.