The Stranglers???

Speaking about how one may see an act - a good example of how confusing this can be.

US band Mind Furniture, which I had my fellow team members check
Me: Unsure
Others: One not prog, one unable to vote.

External sources:
Proggnosis: Symphonic
Progressor: 70's aor/pomp with prog tendencies
Sea of Tranquility: Classic prog
Babyblaue: HardRock; Melodic Rock / AOR; RetroProg

To make it even more interesting the album is a semi-concept piece consisting of two 20+ minute epics divided into 5 segments ;-)

Windhawk wrote: Speaking about how one may see an act - a good example of how confusing this can be. US band Mind Furniture, which I had my fellow team members check Me: Unsure Others: One not prog, one unable to vote. External sources: Proggnosis: Symphonic Progressor: 70's aor/pomp with prog tendencies Sea of Tranquility: Classic prog Babyblaue: HardRock; Melodic Rock / AOR; RetroProg To make it even more interesting the album is a semi-concept piece consisting of two 20+ minute epics divided into 5 segments ;-)

Olav, you don't know how much time it took me to partially understand Progfreak. 

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - October 23 2008 at 00:55

The T wrote: Ripples wrote: Does anyone on the team have a PROG PHD???   No, but I guess everyone who belongs to a team has a PHD in dealing with ^%$@&....

Post of the year!

leowe wrote: I would say the solo-album of Stranglers bass-player Jean Jacques Burnel, called "Euroman-cometh" from 1979 is prog in my opinion. Just take a listen. The Stranglers not in my opinion, allthough I love their sound (with the keyboards). Anybody ever listened to Magazine ("Second hand daylight)? or Echo and the Bunnymen (Ocean Rain)? They're more prog than the Stranglers. And what about U2 (Achtung Baby)? It's new wave, I know, but they all expanded the boundaries of their genre and experimented with new sounds.

Edited by Dean - October 24 2008 at 11:44

Hmmm. Echo & the Bunnymen... I always get that name mixed up with these guys. Just the name, mind you...

Ripples wrote: Angelo wrote: Hmmm. Echo & the Bunnymen... I always get that name mixed up with these guys. Just the name, mind you... That was stupid! I am more concerned with the quality of music than the genre!

First read, then call me stupid. Or better, don't call me anything....


Edited by Angelo - October 29 2008 at 18:30

Must admit I thought the video was kind of stupid too, but not in a bad way, more in a "there is a fine line between clever and stupid" Spinal Tap way -- minus the clever. ;)  Oops, I hope I haven't crossed the line.

I'm not really sure what your point was Ripples.


Edited by Logan - October 29 2008 at 19:05

No problems understanding your point, Angelo, and I thought the video was funny, but I found Ripples post a little less than cogent.  It didn't seem much thought was put into it.  I guess "That was stupid" and "I am more concerned with the quality of music than the genre!" were unrelated thoughts, but it seemed an odd way to respond.  Of course this video was not posted for its intellectualism, and as for "being more concerned with the quality of music than the genre," well, fine, but if making a suggestion it has to be accepted for a genre (be seen to fit the parameters).  This was declined by Crossover and Related, so if it is to be in the archives, either make a case for a new category, suggest new parameters (which if well-conceived would be considerable), or suggest it to another team (not that I could see the Stranglers in anything but Related or Crossover).  Better yet, accept that it's not deemed suitable, and move on.  It's not like it's not listed at other sites (even if non-Prog sites), and I think it would be difficult to make the case that this is an essential addition for PA whether it's wanted in by some or not.  I don't know if it's listed in any other Prog sites, but if it is then one can enjoy it there, and if it's not, once can try to get it in at another Prog site, or make your own.  It's not like PA is the only Prog site around.  But if you don't care about genre, then why be upset about it being not accepted as a Prog genre or Prog genre related band?  That's what I don't get.  This is Prog Archives, not Progressive Music Archives, and not Quality Music Archives.  You don't have to agree.  If a band's not deemed suitable for the site according to the "prog" and "prog related" parameters, then it's not in.  People don't always agree on that because Prog and Prog Related has such variety, and different meanings/ parameters to different people.  It's not worth getting angry about.  No point in railing against the system, but suggestions are welcomed.


Edited by Logan - October 29 2008 at 20:46

Thank you.  There is another possibility.  He could make the owners an offer they can't refuse, get control of the site, and then determine which bands are in and out, and define the parameters by monarchical decree. But he shouldn't then be surprised if people who have volunteered countless hours for the site jump ship and fight to have their bios, reviews, definitions and articles removed.  It can be so lonely at the top....