Final Approve or Rejection of a Band suggestion.

Raff wrote: OK, hope not to sound confrontational in any way, but what I saw so far really rubbed me the wrong way (and heaven knows if I need that now). While I understand people who suggest bands like to see some follow up to their suggestions, I would like to remind ALL of you that we have lives outside this board, and that all the work we do on behalf of the site is something we do for FREE.   Ok with the point, i also have live outside, but i actually organize and try to do my best in mantain my blog and participate in this forum.     As things are, I think the genre teams do much more than could be expected from them. Bands are added to the database almost every day, and that in itself is quite a lot of work, especially if the act in question has been around for some time (which means more albums to be added, and more detailed bios to be written). If the workload of the genre teams increases any further, they are very likely to find themselves short-handed sooner rather than later, and it is not always easy to find replacements for absentee members.   As to find replacements, i tell you that are many to want to collaborate with you. As i said before being a SC is a enormous responsability, so i think that the guy that want to be a SC, knows the name of the game. As for providing an explanation for the rejection, in principle I agree, being a supporter of transparency in all things.   Good!    However, seen as some members of this board seem unable to behave civilly to others, I am afraid things would get unmanageable very soon, with disappointed members attacking the SCs responsible for the rejection (I've already seen this, so I know what I'm talking about).   I see too but my suggestion would shut up their mouths for once and for all   The Admins' workload would also increase exponentially, and the atmosphere of the forums would be seriously damaged.   I really doubt that, in terms of transparency i think the addition/ rejection procedure would be more easy to cacht. As regards that mock-legal verdict, well.. I'd rather not say anything unpleasant, but I'd also rather NOT see anything that reminds me of work in a place which I visit in order to relax and socialise. I do take my job as a SC seriously, but there are limits.   Of course are limits, but as i tell to Rushfan4 you see the point of a SC, and as SC you are aware of everything in the site.

Atavachron wrote:  ^ thank you  ..been wanting to say the same but just hadn't put it into words yet.  "Collaborators must add their reasons for rejection or for addition"  .. excuse me but you need to take a big step back for all the reasons stated above and a whole bunch of others.  Nice try but most of us bust our butts and take the work very seriously.  Moreover, Collabs often post in Suggest New Bands with comments and thank yous, and frequently follow-up on the decisions.  And BTW, rushfan is right, that's what Site Monitoring does, and they do it very well. Thank you.

King By-Tor wrote: Honestly, I don't know how much easier it is for you just to go to ProgFreak and look at the charts there. What you're suggesting would basically mean that the SCs on here would have to work on here a good amount of time per day, and no one would want this to turn into a second, unpaid job. Jobs aren't meant for fun, and PA isn't meant to be a job If it means pleasing one person, why don't you just go to ProgFreak where it basically already does everything you're suggesting. The teams all post their results there anyways, and like so many others have said, you can always PM a site Moniter if you're curious about the addition of a certain band. These guys bust their asses as it is, would you stop giving them such grief over this matter?

zafreth wrote: Atavachron wrote:  ^ thank you  ..been wanting to say the same but just hadn't put it into words yet.  "Collaborators must add their reasons for rejection or for addition"  .. excuse me but you need to take a big step back for all the reasons stated above and a whole bunch of others.  Nice try but most of us bust our butts and take the work very seriously.  Moreover, Collabs often post in Suggest New Bands with comments and thank yous, and frequently follow-up on the decisions.  And BTW, rushfan is right, that's what Site Monitoring does, and they do it very well. Thank you.     Exactly David, if you said that take the work very seriously, that document stand like an evidence of that hours or weeks of hard work. As you see,  we all win with this suggestion!

not what I was saying but whatever...  no, we don't all win with your suggestion, believe me

As for this suggestion - I have enough paperwork and red tape at the place I earn my money. Getting another level of it here makes me think of documentation, journals, archives and having to spend time on routines that gets in the way of the stuff I want to do in here (for my sake pestering the various teams a lot lately...) - but still: It would reduce the joy and initiative to do something here.

Knowing that for every decision made one way or the other there's a need to provide documentation after the fact would primarily add incentive to postpone a decision for my sake, and I would think I'm not all alone in feeling that way.

A good idea though - if this had been a place where we worked, got an hourly salary and had to comply with ISO-standards.

Edited by Easy Livin - October 29 2008 at 16:42

zafreth wrote: zafreth wrote: zafreth wrote: if you want i can do the veredict transcription and publish in a special thread

zafreth wrote: zafreth wrote: zafreth wrote: zafreth wrote: if you want i can do the veredict transcription and publish in a special thread

Quite aware - I just don't think you know exactly how much work that would be

oh I see, well thank you for that sparkling and most helpful advice.

I can't see the point on asking any of the team to write the reasons for not including a band or artist. This would almost be tantamount to writing reviews on albums you don't like because it's not your kind of music. Horrible thought.

Raff wrote: zafreth wrote: _And BTW i have a job that i enjoy so much!   Someone said this many many years ago: "If you find that your job isn't fun or you do not enjoy that job, is better to quit and find another job until the job in question become unbereable and damages your heatlh"   Just for the record guys... OK, just for YOUR record, I will be 48 in December, and there is NO way in hell that I could find another job in Italy at this age - even if my job killed me (and it almost did a few years ago). And the rest of Europe is no better. So, please, keep your advice to yourself, unless you know everyone's personal circumstances. We can crack jokes about music, but please, let's leave people's private lives out of it.