Cat Stevens & Marillion

Perhaps this should be in the 'Discussions not related to music'

Political and theological discussions can be very rewarding but can also cause problems. I am registered on numerous news forums, and vent my wrath and disgust at the world there. Not here.

This is where I come to de-stress from politics, religion and war

Marillion, pop?? Nah, I dont think so. This journalist dont know sh!t !!

  A word to the wise: As this -- believe it or not -- is a website dedicated to progressive rock (and the goddess Mariah Carey), there is perhaps no better way to anger long-time  and new members, and cause them to leave, than to discuss (ie, argue and rant about) politics and/or religion, especially in an inflammatory fashion.

We come from all over, with differing sexual/political/religious orientations & beliefs, but we are at least united by a love of good music -- why risk dividing/destroying  our cozy little community?

I speak from experience.

"We come from all over, with differing sexual/political/religious orientations & beliefs, but we are at least united by a love of good music -- why risk dividing/destroying  our cozy little community? "

I agree with my friend Peter Rideout on that.

Peter

You've heard my last word on the subject

Beware: Politics the red rag the Blacksword bull....

Blacksword wrote: Peter You've heard my last word on the subject

Thank God! Whoops -- I mean, Thank goodness!

Reed Lover wrote: I was going to post about all the "Rock Stars" who have been on the FBI's list of dangers to the American Way Of Life. But one name suffices. It is like a hammer blow to your argument and your stupid governments: John Winston Lennon RIP Nuff said dont you think?

 Not quite RL. What sort of a pacifist was our John really? The type that supports murdering bastards perhaps?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/649397.stm

Er..does anyone know if Marillion have played any Cat Stevens songs?

They are keen on the odd cover, I've heard them doing a version of Substitute by The Who.

Hi Threefates,

Your need for protection is not in question 3', nor is that of the rest of the world. It's the methods employed that are to my mind highly questionable. George and Tony's adventures in Iraq have done nothing to 'protect' you and I, and have only helped to polarize two cultures, and inspire more  idealistic young zealots to take up arms against us. Bush was so wrong to call these fanatics "evil". To call them evil implies they are motivated by a sadistic and sociapathic lust to cause death and suffering, just for the hell of it. The truth is their motives are born of deeply held theological beliefs, and the handling of the current debacle in the Middle East is only breeding recrutes.

We can play the isolationist game if we like, but it's a lonely path to tread. I'm put in mind of Wilde's "The Selfish Giant".

Hi Emidar.. honey

Mr. Islam being pulled off the plane doesn't really have anything to do with the war in Iraq or Mr. Bush's or Mr. Blair's methods... it has to do with homeland security... and that I'm behind.  I'm not sure about what good the war in Iraq has done or not done... I'm sure that will always be a center of debate for years to come.. and both sides will claim some sort of victory... Thats just the way that works.

I also disagree with you about their motives being born from deeply held theological beliefs.  Like every other war, they continue to use that as an excuse and it might of started that way many years ago... but that is not what it is about today.  I know many muslim clerics here in NYC.. actually I've worked with the head of the Muslim community here in NYC, Imam Al-Hajj Talib W. 'Abdur-Rashid' and we've had many discussions in regard to how non-religious these terrorist groups really are.

Its not much different than the hatred instilled in the young brought up in Northern Ireland.  Its what your bred to think, not whats really truth any longer. I spent quite a lot of time with Muslim families in Malaysia.  You should of heard what they've been led to believe about Americans.  Of course, by the time I left, they probably had a whole different idea of Americans...