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Petrovsk Mizinski 
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 Posted: September 19 2008 at 08:52 |
 trackstoni wrote:
i had one album for tmv and 8 for van der graaf before this poll . after reviewing all reviews concerning tmv in 24 hours and getting another album for tmv , and all their clips from you tube , i can say now for sure , they have no chance to beat VDGG by any means , not even close to , so try another tricks while throwing yur opinions PunkProgers ///////////////////////// it's obvious !!!! |
If you're implying TMV is punk prog, you're not even in the playing field, missed the mark by miles. Anyone that knows anything about punk knows TMV have some post hardcore elements, but it's hardly a huge feature of TMV's sound.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: September 19 2008 at 10:57 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
trackstoni wrote:
i had one album for tmv and 8 for van der graaf before this poll . after reviewing all reviews concerning tmv in 24 hours and getting another album for tmv , and all their clips from you tube , i can say now for sure , they have no chance to beat VDGG by any means , not even close to , so try another tricks while throwing yur opinions PunkProgers ///////////////////////// it's obvious !!!! |
If you're implying TMV is punk prog, you're not even in the playing field, missed the mark by miles.
Anyone that knows anything about punk knows TMV have some post hardcore elements, but it's hardly a huge feature of TMV's sound.
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sleeper
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Joined: October 09 2005
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Posted: September 19 2008 at 11:20 |
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Though I really like The Mars Volta, its hard not to vote for Van der Graaf Generator.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Moatilliatta
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Joined: December 01 2005
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 01:02 |
sleeper wrote:
Though I really like The Mars Volta, its hard not to vote for Van der Graaf Generator. |
No it isn't.
In theory, at least.
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Peter
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Joined: January 31 2004
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 01:33 |
I really like VDGG. They were prog pioneers, and they still have it. Good dark, spooky music (but with generous amounts of beauty, too), great lyrics, unique, never-boring vocals. 
(But admittedly a "difficult" band for many, polarizing even as prog bands go.)
I really couldn't stomach the Mars Volta I heard here before. It seemed to me that they were just being weird & chaotic for the sake of being weird & chaotic -- I found them distinctly non-musical, and the vocals particularly grated on me. Perhaps they are talented musicians, but the music was sheer sonic torture to me. I need more structure, melody, majesty, beauty and meaning in my prog. I heard precious little of that in the tracks I tried. 
Sorry.
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Yep -- I just tried to get through the one working video, the supposed "Mussogorsky" thing, and those screamy vocals make me want to blow my brains out!  On top of that, the music and drumming are way too fast and grating for me, though I CAN tell that they are capable of playing music I would find accessible.
Call me too old for it, if you like. I find it nightmarish, like Bagdhad & terror-type war or a massive traffic accident rendered as "music."
But you young'uns enjoy -- each generation has to come up with music to drive their parents up the wall, it seems, and I guess TMV is yours. 
The guitar is not too bad when things slow down, but as with death-type growling vocals a la Opeth, I can't wade through all of that noise just for a few fleeting moments of what I consider decent music. 
No disrespect intended -- just very far from my thing, at least at this point in my life. 
.....
 Yeah -- I want to shoot the singer! Must turn... it ...OFF!!!
click!
 ah! WTF wazzat?  zzzzzzzzzzz....
Edited by Peter - September 20 2008 at 02:07
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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Moatilliatta
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Joined: December 01 2005
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 02:19 |
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^You watched what? And I don't think watching a random video is a good way of checking out a band. I doubt, based on your tastes that you would love them, but their first album is very melodic and structured. Also, it's far less dissonant and there are no obnoxious vocal effects. There's definitely dissonance, but it's not put in the foreground as much as the new material.
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Peter
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Joined: January 31 2004
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 10:54 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
^You watched what? And I don't think watching a random video is a good way of checking out a band. I doubt, based on your tastes that you would love them, but their first album is very melodic and structured. Also, it's far less dissonant and there are no obnoxious vocal effects. There's definitely dissonance, but it's not put in the foreground as much as the new material. |
Don't worry -- that was not a rushed, one-source-only judgement. There used to be more sonic samples, which I listened to before, and someone sent me some once to check out.
The video (the only one still available on that page link) was something with "Mussogorsky" in the title.
Yeah, my tastes don't extend in that direction, but I CAN hear the talent in TMV, so I am open to conversion re other material, but (understandably) sceptical.
I did not want to ruffle any fans' feathers last night -- I was just trying to be honest, and give my gut reactions as I heard the music.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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The Doctor
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 10:58 |
No contest! I imagine TMV will have the same chance against VDGG as NSync would have up against Gabriel-led Genesis. 
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PA's Battle to Stardom A7: VDGG v. The Mars Volta
