PA's Battle to Stardom A7: VDGG v. The Mars Volta - Progressive Rock Music Forum

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febus

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Posted: September 17 2008 at 22:15

King By-Tor wrote:

^^^ He's got a point there

Who's he????

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Posted: September 17 2008 at 22:16

King By-Tor wrote:

Opinions are overrated

Facts are overrated. Shocked

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Posted: September 17 2008 at 22:17

febus wrote:

King By-Tor wrote:

^^^ He's got a point there

Who's he????

Does he mean Richard Wright's ghost?

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Posted: September 17 2008 at 23:59

Another TMV voter right here!

I love both these bands, but TMV speaks to me a lot more than VDGG does.

TMV are also great fans of the Graaf.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 00:10

MovingPictures07 wrote:

febus wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

febus wrote:

This is the revenge of the GONG and MAHAVISHNU ghosts that have been eliminated earlier with no mercy

Screw you, Febus. Wink

And i am not even

a VDGG fan by any means!

Just they have 3 and a half good albums to one great TMV, you know which one!

so it makes the difference

Yeah, I understand your outlook there.

I'm not a VDGG hater or anything, I just think all of TMV's albums are really good... and De-Loused and Bedlam are absolute masterpieces. Closest thing VDGG has to a masterpiece, IMO, is Godbluff. And that's still like 4 stars.

Yay opinions! Wink

Both "Pawn Hearts" and "Godbluff" are 5 star albums in my book, and "Still Life" and "H to He..." come close. Not to mention the fantastic live album "Vital", which in my opinion is one of the very best live albums of all time.

BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 04:58

Easiest poll yet

https://soundcloud.com/why-music Prog trio, from ambiant to violence
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https://soundcloud.com/fadisaliba (almost) everything else

mono

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 04:58

Oh yeah, I voted Van der Graaf of course

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 10:41

BaldFriede wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

febus wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

febus wrote:

This is the revenge of the GONG and MAHAVISHNU ghosts that have been eliminated earlier with no mercy

Screw you, Febus. Wink

And i am not even

a VDGG fan by any means!

Just they have 3 and a half good albums to one great TMV, you know which one!

so it makes the difference

Pawn Hearts is easily my least favorite of those 4, for reasons I could never understand. I can't get into Lemmings at all and Plague is okay at best... however, Man-Erg is pretty good. Godbluff is great, Still Life is close (but I have to be in the mood for it more so), and then H to He is a solid 3 star release. Then again, they're just not the band for me I suppose.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 10:45

i had one album for tmv and 8 for van der graaf before this poll . after reviewing all reviews concerning tmv in 24 hours and getting another album for tmv , and all their clips from you tube , i can say now for sure , they have no chance to beat VDGG by any means , not even close to , so try another tricks while throwing yur opinions PunkProgers ///////////////////////// it's obvious !!!!

Tracking Tracks of Rock

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 10:51

trackstoni wrote:

i had one album for tmv and 8 for van der graaf before this poll . after reviewing all reviews concerning tmv in 24 hours and getting another album for tmv , and all their clips from you tube , i can say now for sure , they have no chance to beat VDGG by any means , not even close to , so try another tricks while throwing yur opinions PunkProgers ///////////////////////// it's obvious !!!!

It's all opinion. Stern%20Smile

I absolutely love The Mars Volta; they're extremely talented (Omar knows alot of music theory) and they create something completely unique that I personally love with all 4 albums. VDGG never hit me, but that's all just my experience. I do like them okay though. You act like I'm a heathen for not absolutely loving VDGG. Confused

Edited by MovingPictures07 - September 18 2008 at 10:51

febus

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 11:41

A lot of unnecessary nastiness here

.....Not liking VDDG doesn't mean you are a punk

...and your first name is Antoine too...my gosh..

.......................good job Alex!

Antoine

Edited by febus - September 18 2008 at 13:13

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 11:58

Both bands are good.

But Van Der Graff is BETTER than The Mars Volta.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 12:15

febus wrote:

King By-Tor wrote:

febus wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

febus wrote:

This is the revenge of the GONG and MAHAVISHNU ghosts that have been eliminated earlier with no mercy

Screw you, Febus. Wink

And i am not even

a VDGG fan by any means!

Just they have 3 and a half good albums to one great TMV, you know which one!

so it makes the difference

^^^ He's got a point there

Who's he????

That's what I meant. Or is that just even more confusing LOL

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:13

febus wrote:

A lot of unnecessary nastiness here

.....Not liking VDDG doesn't mean you are a punk

...and your first name is Antoine too...my gosh.........................good job Alex!

Antoine

Thanks!

The results of this get more upsetting every time I look though. Cry

Oh, and with your signature/picture combination... it actually makes me want to bring out some old Floyd CDs... I haven't listened to them in at least over a year and a half. I just might do that.

TGM: Orb

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:13

Sigh.

H To He, Who Am The Only One - 6 stars, my second favourite album of all time
Godbluff - 5 stars (top 20 albums of all time)
Pawn Hearts - 5 Stars (top 20 albums of all time)
Still Life - 5 Stars (top 20 albums of all time, just about)
...

will give a listen to the samples, but seriously, I'd be stunned if TMV even came close.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:14

TGM: Orb wrote:

Sigh.

H To He, Who Am The Only One - 6 stars, my second favourite album of all time
Godbluff - 5 stars (top 20 albums of all time)
Pawn Hearts - 5 Stars (top 20 albums of all time)
Still Life - 5 Stars (top 20 albums of all time, just about)
...

will give a listen to the samples, but seriously, I'd be stunned if TMV even came close.

I would be stunned too. You love VDGG way too much to vote for anything else; I don't blame you.

Thanks for listening to the samples though! That's one of the main points of these polls. Big%20smile

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:15

Not an uncommon opinion it seems.

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Posted: September 18 2008 at 13:17

NaturalScience wrote:

Not an uncommon opinion it seems.

Well, at least it's been an interesting result. There are even many more other matches that I'm looking forward to since I think they'll be alot closer. Overall I've been happy with the voting turnouts so far, especially since a decent amount of the matches have been pretty close.

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Posted: September 19 2008 at 06:35

Van Der Graaf Generator, with masterpieces such as 'Godbluff' and 'Still Life', but not by a mile.

The Mars Volta switch to and fro between irritating and real good music, but they are one of the most interesting and innovative prog bands of today.

Edited by someone_else - September 19 2008 at 06:37

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Posted: September 19 2008 at 08:49

Moatilliatta wrote:

I knew this would happen, but for me The Mars Volta is the clear winner.

My thoughts exactly.
I prefer TMV anyday, but they aren't as well known in prog circles anyway.

Poll Question: Which do you prefer?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Van der Graaf Generator	54	[75.00%]
The Mars Volta	18	[25.00%]
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