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CPicard
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Topic: Rage Against the Machine fans and Audioslave fans? Posted: October 31 2008 at 12:16 |
The first RATM album was a hammer which had a big impact on me when I was a teenager. The second one was good, and THAT was a problem: "Evil Empire" shouldn't have been good, it should have BETTER. So, I quickly lost any interest in the band and completed my collection of Fishbone, Urban Dance Squand and Living Colour. But when talking about Audioslave... An uncanny graft that sounded artificial to my ears. I first thought it was a joke, then I thought: "Robert Smith teaming with the Dead Kennedys". Yes. It sounded as weird as that to me.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 05:15 |
Listening to BOLA
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Philéas
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Posted: August 31 2008 at 15:28 |
I have never bothered to check out Audioslave though I love both RatM and Soundgarden. Heard some stuff on the radio that's alright, but nothing overly interesting.
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Plankowner
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 19:20 |
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laplace
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 17:14 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
^You're statement on "if you're a Prog fan, it might annoy you", as if you suggest being a prog fan reduces your chances of liking it somehow. I like prog, sure, but also heaps of other stuff to, I don't let being a "prog fan" make me a high brow elitist that only listens to "complex" music, nor should it do that to anyone else IMO
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who's the new schizoid_man? ;P
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the_binkster
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 17:11 |
There is something about the funky hard rock of "Revelations" that is impossible to resist. RATM are a band I've really grown to like, at first I dismissed them but their politically charged lyrics won me over. Zack's voice annoys me slightly but the message he conveys is very powerful and with the powerhouse of Tom Morello behind them they are now up there with my favourite bands.
So there are lovers of RATM and Audioslave.
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KoS
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 16:32 |
RATM was my favorite band for a long time. Since I'm a Chris Cornell fan, I liked Audioslave, not as much as Rage but they had some cool songs. The self-titled Audioslave album was pretty intense, it's one of my favorite's of this decade.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 16:18 |
I never got into either of the bands because at the age when it was cool to get into them I started digging classic rock instead and then tastes went in a direction that had no link to those bands.
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Dr.No.7134
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 16:10 |
I love RATM except renegades and audioslave is very good aswell.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 13:52 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
^You're statement on "if you're a Prog fan, it might annoy you", as if you suggest being a prog fan reduces your chances of liking it somehow. I like prog, sure, but also heaps of other stuff to, I don't let being a "prog fan" make me a high brow elitist that only listens to "complex" music, nor should it do that to anyone else IMOAnyway....
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I was reffering to the Prog Fans that say that music that goes: verse-chorus-verse-chorus-10 sec solo-chorus, and think that's crap.
I wasn't reffering to everyone that listens to Prog, if that's what you understand I'm sorry if you've been offensed(or offended?)
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The Pessimist
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 12:40 |
I'm a Rage fan, although i'm not that keen on Audioslave. System of the Down are also brilliant.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 02:16 |
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Plankowner
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 01:50 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
I love RATM. Don't care what anyone else thinks. I don't normally like rap at all (except for some 80s stuff), but the rap/metal/rock thing happening here works for me.
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Try, Primer 55 "The (New) Release" album. Let me know what you think. I'm with you here, but I absolutely love this album.
The absolutely craziest pit, I've ever been in, was RATM. Usually you can hang back and avoid being slammed into, but at the RATM there was NO safe place in general admission whatsoever... place went absolutely nuts. I fell in love at that very moment
I love Chris Cornell. Think he has one of the most unique voices in Rock. Audioslave's albums miss for me, I just feel that they really could be so much better.
Anyway...
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Posted: August 30 2008 at 00:45 |
I think, maybe, you're a little harsh there Goldenspiral. But, I don't really disagree with you, lol. Rather than form a new band, it is like they tried Rage with a new vocalist, and it doesn't work.
And I don't know why I said De La Hoya. I thought that was his name for so long, I don't know why. Old habits die hard I guess.
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 11:43 |
I love RAGT, but haven't heard Audioslave in a while so I can't really comment on this one..
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 11:36 |
morello and the entire band actually played with such a GROOVE. thats the biggest thing i come away with from rage's music is the pure funk groove. hard to mimic.
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jimidom
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 11:33 |
I love Rage, but I don't really care for Audioslave. Morello's guitar style seemed more like a natural compliment to Zach de la Rocha's angry ranting rather than Chris Cornell's wail. Cornell's best work was with Soundgarden.
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 11:21 |
I love me some rage ghost of tom jode is an absolute favorite of mine regardless of genre. morello could write riffs like few could. crazy guitar effects too from bending the neck and all other sorts of weirdness. i like! audioslave not so much. and rage is touring! that'd be a killer show id love to go.
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 09:34 |
I Rage big time. They were an absolutely visionary band in late 90s popular music. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE Audioslave. Seriously. given the people who are in that band they should be infinitely better than they are. They have the talent to make maybe the best popular rock records ever, but they choose to make music that's bland, boring, trite, and pretty much an insult to our intelligence and their talents.
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