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    Posted: August 26 2008 at 00:57
I have been getting big into his music lately, and I think he would be right at home here in Jazz-Rock, but what do you guys think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 07:01
Not that it necessarily means anything, but Jon Anderson guest vocals on one track of Outbound.  Are they too bluegrassy to be prog?  I don't think so.  Don't let the banjo fool you.  I'd put them here, but I've always been a big tenter with regard to prog. Flecks also done an album of classical pieces for the banjo.  Very interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 12:33
Well, he doesn't really play the Banjo in bluegrass style, anyhow. He's much Jazzier than one might expect at first.
 
I'm glad you agree with me, Slartibartfast. Let's just hope that other folks will agree with us.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:13
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Well, he doesn't really play the Banjo in bluegrass style, anyhow. He's much Jazzier than one might expect at first.
 


That's true and when you think of jazz you don't really think of the banjo as jazz instrument or a classical one for that matter.  You don't happen to know of any other jazz banjoists? banjoers?  banjovians? (that's my joke name for Bela, Banjovi)  What the hell is plural for banjo player anyway?

I just ran a search and there are a whole flock of Fleck threads.  Check them out.
Link expired, the curious should do a search for "Fleck" set to any date.
It seems all the Fleck threads have been closed even though some are fairly recent.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:19
yes. they are prog. there is no debate on this one. I dont know why they havent been here before.

The banjo thing is progressive, and Bela Fleck does have a bluegrass style, he just plays jazz. And he can make his banjo not even sound like a banjo but an electric guitar, which he also plays on certain songs.

then you have Victor Wooten, besides being one of the sickest bassists, plays classical (they all do)

so basically the band mixes jazz, rock, jazz-rock, bluegrass, classical, and they have this jam band feel to them sometimes as well. And they definitely are prog, most people, even non-fans, cant really deny that if they heard them. so I dont see a big problem with them being here.

i just threw on Live-Art, I havent listened to this band in a good long time, and I forgot how great they are!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:25
Well said, darkshade. I consider Victor Wooten to be one of the top 5 bassists in the world. Yay for me too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:27
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

I have been getting big into his music lately, and I think he would be right at home here in Jazz-Rock, but what do you guys think?


Absolutely 100% yes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:28
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i just threw on Live-Art, I havent listened to this band in a good long time, and I forgot how great they are!


Clap  Absolutely love that album, the tracks where Herbie guests and he and Bela "duel", absolutely sick!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:39

Doesn't Victor play the "drums" too.  I haven't listened to them in quite some time, but I remember seeing an interview (don't remember where) where one of the instruments had electric drumpads included on it, and not only did the musician play his instrument he also tapped along the drums.  I think that it was Victor Wooten that had this contraption but I could be wrong.  Maybe Bela had it on his banjo.  Anyone want to fill me in on my hazy memories? It is a bitch getting old.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:42
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Doesn't Victor play the "drums" too.  I haven't listened to them in quite some time, but I remember seeing an interview (don't remember where) where one of the instruments had electric drumpads included on it, and not only did the musician play his instrument he also tapped along the drums.  I think that it was Victor Wooten that had this contraption but I could be wrong.  Maybe Bela had it on his banjo.  Anyone want to fill me in on my hazy memories? It is a bitch getting old.



Victor's brother Roy Wooten plays the "drumitar".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:44
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Doesn't Victor play the "drums" too.  I haven't listened to them in quite some time, but I remember seeing an interview (don't remember where) where one of the instruments had electric drumpads included on it, and not only did the musician play his instrument he also tapped along the drums.  I think that it was Victor Wooten that had this contraption but I could be wrong.  Maybe Bela had it on his banjo.  Anyone want to fill me in on my hazy memories? It is a bitch getting old.



no it's probably Victor Wooten's brother, i forgot his first name.

btw, of course they would go in the jazz-rock/fusion section
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:44
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Doesn't Victor play the "drums" too.  I haven't listened to them in quite some time, but I remember seeing an interview (don't remember where) where one of the instruments had electric drumpads included on it, and not only did the musician play his instrument he also tapped along the drums.  I think that it was Victor Wooten that had this contraption but I could be wrong.  Maybe Bela had it on his banjo.  Anyone want to fill me in on my hazy memories? It is a bitch getting old.



Victor's brother Roy Wooten plays the "drumitar".


damn you beat me LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:49
Thank you.  I suppose that this "drumitar" is probably considered kind of cheesy like the "keytar" of 80's hair metal fame, but when I saw that interview I really thought it was the coolest invention, although I suppose that it probably put a drummer out of work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:55
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Thank you.  I suppose that this "drumitar" is probably considered kind of cheesy like the "keytar" of 80's hair metal fame, but when I saw that interview I really thought it was the coolest invention, although I suppose that it probably put a drummer out of work.


yea but listening to it being played is awesome, and you would think it was a real drummer, and sometimes Roy does stuff even a normal drummer couldnt do easily.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 18:47
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 20:34
Incidentally, the tenor banjo was originally used in jazz bands in the 1920s and 1930s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2008 at 20:52
Wow, so many people agreeing! I honestly don't see how Fleck COULDN'T be added now, unless the owner personally doesn't want him here, which I think is a shame if that is the case. If the other threads about this have been closed already, I'm fearing that may very well be the case. :(
 
Let's hope I'm wrong, and that Bela and co. wil be included here asap.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2008 at 07:52
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Incidentally, the tenor banjo was originally used in jazz bands in the 1920s and 1930s.


Yeah, I actually missed Professor Heath's response to a similar comment I made in another Fleck thread a few months ago.  I did not know that, though I am somewhat familiar with Grappelli and Reinhardt in the early jazz department.  So when I think of early jazz other than the more famous Louis Armstrong, I think of those guys and violin with acoustic guitar. Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2008 at 23:26
Oh no, I'm not letting this topic go unoticed by the righyt people. I'm *bump*ing this!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2008 at 03:03
Sure, what the hell.
 
Don't know about the rock quotient, but hey I like them and they make damn good progressive music, so if they were here I wouldn't complain.
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