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bearsfan 
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 05:06 |
Hello. I'm Ben. I'm new to the forum and looking for advice about music to get. I prefer instrumental music but I've been having trouble lately finding more of it that I like well. So I've been checking out King Crimson, and I like their instrumental parts real well. I like a few of the songs I've heard by them too. For example: "One More Red Nightmare". I'd especially like to find more good instrumental albums though, whether jazz/rock fusion or prog., etc. Thanks for any help!
bozzio/ levin/ stevens: situation dangerous
the lonely bears- the bears are running, Injustice
Jeff Beck w/ The Jan Hammer Group Live
Frank Zappa: Hot Rats
Billy Cobham: Spectrum
Miles Davis: In A Silent Way
> The Mahavishnu Orchestra: Birds of Fire, the inner mounting flame, lost trident sessions
> al di meola- elegant gypsy
> gordian knot- self titled, emergent
> return to forever- romantic warrior
> chic corea- hymn of the 7th galaxy, no mystery
> brand x- unortodox behaviour
> the john scofield band- up all night
> donald byrd: ethiopian knights, Electric Byrd
> djam karet: the devouring, a night for baku
> niacin: time crunch
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 05:14 |
hm, a few ones that come to mind: King Crimson's Larks' Tongues In Aspic is my favourite all-time album, though basically their entire early catalogue is brilliant to essential. Maneige's Les Porches is mostly instrumental (a minute or two's worth of guest vocals in the whole album), and an utterly brilliant album. Il Balletto Di Bronzo's Ys is equally so, though there's a much more vocal material. If you've not heard Soft Machine's Third, I'd recommend that very highly. Focus may or may not appeal to you, but I'll let someone who knows more about the band suggest an album. et... Welcome to the forum 
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 20:15 |
There's plenty of great Japanese Jazz/Fusion bands out there you should check out, like Ain Soph, Kenso and Mongol. All of them are quite reminicent to Chick Corea/Return To Forever's sound circa "Romantic Warrior", perhaps a bit more modern though. As for prog, any of King Crimson's 73-75 albums are essential. If you like them then you could also check out Present, who are somewhat similar, only much more darker and challenging on the ear. Entirely instrumental too.
Essential albums by those bands:
Ain Soph - A Story of Mysterious Forest
Kenso - Yume no Oka
Mongol - Driller
Present - Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou
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Posted: August 16 2008 at 20:59 |
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the Japanese scene is a great suggestion, everyone from Le Silo and Flat 122 to Interpose+ and Muddy World ..for classic Fusion; Area, Colosseum ll, and Bruford's first two are essential, and for modern stuff Planet X is a must if you enjoy the heavier side-- I notice you like Niacin, fantastic band! Time Crunch is very good but Organik will completely blow you away.. cheers!
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 01:17 |
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Thanks for the welcome. I've heard Larks, Red, and Starless. I liked those a lot and can't hardly wait to hear more of their albums. Oh, and I've heard "Reason To Believe" and liked some of it. It seemed like Maniege's stuff and the Sof Machine CD you mentioned are imports and kinda high dollar, so I'm not sure if I can get those without a fairly thorough listen so I would know what their music is like. I have dial up, so any sampling and especially downloading are difficult. It's hard to make a judgement on a prog album from 30 second or so sound clips anyway.
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bearsfan
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 01:25 |
 Atavachron wrote:
the Japanese scene is a great suggestion, everyone from Le Silo and Flat 122 to Interpose+ and Muddy World ..for classic Fusion; Area, Colosseum ll, and Bruford's first two are essential, and for modern stuff Planet X is a must if you enjoy the heavier side-- I notice you like Niacin, fantastic band! Time Crunch is very good but Organik will completely blow you away.. cheers!
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Thanks to the both of you for suggesting the Japanese prog and fusion scene. I didn't know anything about it and probably wouldn't have discovered it on my own. I'm getting ready to go check into it. I have "One Of A Kind" by Bruford. It's been awhile since I listened to it. I'll have to get it out soon cuz I don't really remember it. I almost got one of Planet X's CDs once. Do they do well on song writing and are there good soloing and instrumental interplay on their albums? Which one do you think is their best? I ordered Organik a couple of days ago.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 01:26 |
bearsfan wrote:
It's hard to make a judgement on a prog album from 30 second or so sound clips anyway. |
If it is Present you are referring to now, try download some samples from their homepage.
As said earlier, Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou is their best. Perhaps not easy listening, but definitely rewarding.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 01:41 |
bearsfan wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
the Japanese scene is a great suggestion, everyone from Le Silo and Flat 122 to Interpose+ and Muddy World ..for classic Fusion; Area, Colosseum ll, and Bruford's first two are essential, and for modern stuff Planet X is a must if you enjoy the heavier side-- I notice you like Niacin, fantastic band! Time Crunch is very good but Organik will completely blow you away.. cheers!
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Thanks to the both of you for suggesting the Japanese prog and fusion scene. I didn't know anything about it and probably wouldn't have discovered it on my own. I'm getting ready to go check into it. I have "One Of A Kind" by Bruford. It's been awhile since I listened to it. I'll have to get it out soon cuz I don't really remember it. I almost got one of Planet X's CDs once. Do they do well on song writing and are there good soloing and instrumental interplay on their albums? Which one do you think is their best? I ordered Organik a couple of days ago. |
all three studio albums are outstanding, I think my personal favorite is Universe, but you can't go wrong with Moonbabies or Quantum.. from what I've heard the live one can be avoided
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 04:06 |
Bj-1 wrote:
bearsfan wrote:
It's hard to make a judgement on a prog album from 30 second or so sound clips anyway. |
If it is Present you are referring to now, try download some samples from their homepage.
As said earlier, Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou is their best. Perhaps not easy listening, but definitely rewarding.
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Just finished listening to those two samples on Present's site. Thanks. I liked the piano with the electric guitar soloing at the end of sample #1. Is there plenty more electric guitar soloing similar to that throughout the album to break up the frantic guitar picking and piano? I thought sample #2 would have been great w/ some electric guitar soloing mixed in. I'm also curious to find out if this album has keyboard in addition to the piano.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 08:17 |
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Weather Report- Balck Market, Heavy Weather
Guapo- Five Suns, Black Oni, Elixirs
The Pax Cecilia- Blessed are the Bonds (largely instrumental but a decent amount of vocals early on, available for free download from their website only)
Derek Sherinian- Blood of the Snake
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye, Dowsing Anamone with Copper Tongue, Blue Lambency Downward (again, not totally instrumental but mostly, three very different sounding albums with Choirs... being the best)
Pelican- The Fire in our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw, City of Echoes
John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess- An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess
Universe Zero- Heresie
Liquid Tension Experiment- LTE1, LTE2
Planet X- Moonbabies
John Zorn- Naked City
Behold... The Arctapus- Nano Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning
NeBeLNeST-NoVa eXPReSS
Gryphon- Red Queen to Gryphon 3
Indukti- SUSAR
Billy Cobham- Spectrum
Hiromi- Spiral
Present- Triskaidekaphobie/La Poisen Qui Rend Fou
The best instrumental, or largely instrumental, albums from my collection.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 17:02 |
bearsfan wrote:
Bj-1 wrote:
bearsfan wrote:
It's hard to make a judgement on a prog album from 30 second or so sound clips anyway. |
If it is Present you are referring to now, try download some samples from their homepage.
As said earlier, Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou is their best. Perhaps not easy listening, but definitely rewarding.
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Just finished listening to those two samples on Present's site. Thanks. I liked the piano with the electric guitar soloing at the end of sample #1. Is there plenty more electric guitar soloing similar to that throughout the album to break up the frantic guitar picking and piano? I thought sample #2 would have been great w/ some electric guitar soloing mixed in. I'm also curious to find out if this album has keyboard in addition to the piano. |
Yes, indeed. Notably the Le Poison Qui Rend Fou part is very guitar dominated, with plenty of piano/guitar interplays, like the first sample, and is more reminiscent of King Crimson than Triskaidekaphobie. And yes, both albums features keyboards in addition to the piano 
Edited by Bj-1 - August 17 2008 at 17:04
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 17:15 |
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Instrumental Music Rules! Here's a bunch of nice albums:
Ozric Tentacles - Erpsongs, There is Nothing, Erpland, Pungent Effulgent
Al Di Meola - Gypsy
Bo Hansson - Sagan om Ringen, Ur Trollkarlens hatt, El-ahrairah
Gong - Gazeuse
Camel - The Snow Goose
Weather Report - Black Market, Mr. Gone, Night Passage
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 18:15 |
Well, I'm hooked on those two sound clips from Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, so no matter how abnormal the sound and cover art are, I'm going to get the CD 
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bearsfan
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 18:29 |
I have these that were mentioned. I listen to Pungent Effulgent some, Bitches Brew occasionally, and the other two are fine but get little play.
Liquid Tension Experiment- LTE1
John Zorn- Naked City
Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
I've heard a little off those two Weather Report CDs, but other than that it looks like there's a lot listed here that I haven't heard.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 19:18 |
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Amazon had about all of those Japanese CDs at $30 and over. Does anyone know of a place to get them cheaper that also gives some sound clips?
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 04:51 |
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Sleeper, I searched amazon for the bands on your list , and other than those few albums I already have and/or have heard, l came up w/ helpful sound clips from Pelican's Echoes... (I'm pumped about this band) and Kayo Dot 's Choirs... (I like this too). I think I'll search for websites of the other bands to see if they have clips. I read all the reviews on UZ's Heresie, and though the album sounds interesting, I'm concerned that it might sound similiar to a CD I once heard but didn't like by Bang On A Can (it was like hearing a Cd full of someone rubbing car parts together). I wish I could somehow hear a significant portion of that CD, or at least a little of it, to give myself more confidence about buying it. Anyway, I'm going to try to download the The Pax Cecilia album soon. Thanks.
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 13:58 |
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^Heresie sounds very close to Chamber music, with not much rock in there at all, but still very good.
As for Kay Dot, you might want to try bluelambencydownward.com, the current album is up their to stream in its entirety for free.
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 11:48 |
bearsfan wrote:
Well, I'm hooked on those two sound clips from Triskaidekaphobie/Le Poison Qui Rend Fou, so no matter how abnormal the sound and cover art are, I'm going to get the CD |
You won't regret this 
And yes, the cover is fairly sinister. The music is dark, but brilliant overall!
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 11:52 |
bearsfan wrote:
I read all the reviews on UZ's Heresie, and though the album sounds interesting, I'm concerned that it might sound similiar to a CD I once heard but didn't like by Bang On A Can (it was like hearing a Cd full of someone rubbing car parts together). I wish I could somehow hear a significant portion of that CD, or at least a little of it, to give myself more confidence about buying it. |
Heresie is close to classical music in sound, with violins, bassoon and harmonium in addition to the use of drums, bass etc. It's very dark and scary though, kinda like old horror movie soundtracks, but extremely high on musicianship and composition. Very rewarding overall, although challenging!
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 15:44 |
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I'm not sure what Muddy World album is best, but I sampled Finery of the Storm. It sounds pretty good from the samples. Can you tell me how many songs on that CD aren't purely instrumental and how much singing there is on those songs?
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