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bernsteinp 
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 Posted: June 03 2008 at 18:07 |
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King Crimson is on top, to me. Emerson Lake & Palmer comes in fairly close, but their arrangements tend not to assign a complicated part to each instrument at once, unlike King Crimson. i would say Yes, except for the fact the Wakeman and Howe are so sloppy, and Squire's line aren't really complex; they just sound like no other bassist you've ever heard.
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zicIy
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 02:20 |
so many the bands/artsts and their great and complexity albums are already mentioned; i would mentioned some too:
TODD RUNDGREN ("Todd","Utopia" "Initiation","Ra"), FAMILY ("Family Entertainment", "Fearless", "Bandstand"), THE PENTAGLE ("Solomonīs Seal", "Sweet Child", "Basket Of Light"), TONTON MACOUTE (s/t), FAIRPORT CONVENTION ("What We Did At Our Holydays", "Unahalfabricking", "Babbacombe Lee", "Rising Of The Moon"), HAWKWIND ("In Search Of Space","Space Ritual Live", "Astounding Sound") BACK DOOR ("8th Street Blues", "Activate") JETHRO TULL ( "Aqualung", "Thick As A Brick", "A Passion Play", "Songs From The Wood", "Heavy Horses"), ITīS A BEAUTIFUL DAY (s/t, "Marrying Maiden", "Today", "Live At Carnegie Hall") DAVID LAFLAMME ("White Bird"), INCREDIBLE STRING BAND ("The Hangmanīs Beautiful Doughter")
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 15:10 |
Well what a tough subject, but for me the most obvious group that playing complex prog are Gentle Giant, but are more and more groups that playing complex prog, in fact prog is a complex form of music so you have to redifine your question. 
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peskypesky
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 15:16 |
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"Sound Chaser" by Yes is pretty insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rIj6dt7uc&feature=related
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peskypesky
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 15:26 |
 Erpland316 wrote:
We can end this debate by all listening to Birds of Fire or Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra! |
but I still think some of Yes's stuff is in the conversation.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 20:32 |
Classic Prog:
Listen to Yes - Tales from Topographic, Relayer, Close to the Edge
VDGG - Pawn Hearts, H to He..., Real Life, The leastwecandois..... - all of them really
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Gentle Giant - Three Friends, Octopus
King Crimson - ITCOTCK, Lizard, Red
Genesis - Foxtrot (Suppers Ready), Nursery Cryme
ELP - BSSurgery, Pictures at an Exhibition, Tarkus
Neo-Prog:
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory, Awake, Images and Words, Octavarium
Spocks Beard - Octane
Marillion - Jesters Tear, Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood
Tool - Lateralus, Aenima, 10,000 Days
Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A
so many others
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 20:37 |
I don't have the slightest idea of which is the most complex Prog band, but I know probably I won't like them.
Complexity alone is annoying, I heard some bands hat are only screams and weird sounds mixed in a terrible cacophony, not for me.
But everybody has his/her own taste.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 09 2008 at 21:13
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 21:02 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Classic Prog:
Listen to Yes - Tales from Topographic, Relayer, Close to the Edge
VDGG - Pawn Hearts, H to He..., Real Life, The leastwecandois..... - all of them really
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Gentle Giant - Three Friends, Octopus
King Crimson - ITCOTCK, Lizard, Red
Genesis - Foxtrot (Suppers Ready), Nursery Cryme
ELP - BSSurgery, Pictures at an Exhibition, Tarkus
Neo-Prog:
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory, Awake, Images and Words, Octavarium
Spocks Beard - Octane
Marillion - Jesters Tear, Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood
Tool - Lateralus, Aenima, 10,000 Days
Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A
so many others
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huh? 
Most of those albums you listed, Marillion, Spock's Beard and some others, really can't be called complex at all, and much less in the Neo-Prog genre, they're not bad bands, I love Marillion, but complex?!? Come on!
We need Avant-Garde or Zeuhl for nice and complex music. Then you got, off what you listed, Relayer, Tales from Topographic Oceans, those are good choices.
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timothy leary
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 23:13 |
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happy the man, sammla mammas manna
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 02:28 |
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I agree, cacho, that a lot of Marillion is not entirely complex however they have the 19 minute epic Grendel that has an incredible multimovement suite in the style of early Genesis. Spock's Beard perhaps is not the most complex but once again their CDs Octane and The Light are full of interchanging time signatures and multi chord changes. I agree too that Topographic Oceans has to rank as one of the most complex CDs.
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Posted: July 12 2008 at 16:25 |
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I do not know if I can name just one single most-complex band. Surely, these are good nominations
1. King Crimson
2. Area
3. Meshuggah
4. Return to Forever
5. Mahavishnu Orchestra
6. Planet X
7. Frank Zappa
8. Gentle Giant
9. Egg
10. Anglagard
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Posted: July 12 2008 at 17:17 |
The most complex thing is that which is the most difficult for you to get into....
So maybe the most complex band is Sigur Ros.. for me it's quite easier to dominate quantum physics than understand what the hell that guy pretends to do... 
As for "complexity", I rather have good simpler music than boring "ultra complex" music.... But I like some complex things... It all depends on taste.... And I have no idea which the most complex band is... those with music PHDs or degrees: go take a ruler and measure conplexity in whatever way you think is most logical, and please tell us the answer. It will add to the trivia section....
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 20:17 |
mellors wrote:
Structurally: Mauldin of the Well/Kayo Dot
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I guess my perception of Kayo Dot being one of the most structureless and free form bands is totally off the mark. 
Edited by Dorsalia - July 14 2008 at 20:50
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muddoctor
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preqT0THEseq7
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 13:12 |
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 13:15 |
preqT0THEseq7 wrote:
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 , as much as people hate it BTBAM is and DT is very tech too.
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crimson87
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 13:30 |
ELP's Toccata seems to be very complex.
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Single Coil
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Posted: July 23 2008 at 13:11 |
MTZArts wrote:
On a few of their albums, King Crimson screwed around with different timing until the point where it would make a theory god like Pat Martino's head spin. |
Pat Martino = a "theory god". Very funny, yet very true !
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Posted: July 23 2008 at 13:17 |
I have to say the two classics, Gentle Giant and Yezda Urfa, GREAT 
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YesGoblin
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Posted: July 23 2008 at 21:02 |
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ELP for sure, Yes can be somewhat complex,
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The most musically complex prog band(s)?
