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The Quiet One 
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 Posted: July 09 2008 at 21:02 |
 AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Classic Prog:
Listen to Yes - Tales from Topographic, Relayer, Close to the Edge
VDGG - Pawn Hearts, H to He..., Real Life, The leastwecandois..... - all of them really
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Gentle Giant - Three Friends, Octopus
King Crimson - ITCOTCK, Lizard, Red
Genesis - Foxtrot (Suppers Ready), Nursery Cryme
ELP - BSSurgery, Pictures at an Exhibition, Tarkus
Neo-Prog:
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory, Awake, Images and Words, Octavarium
Spocks Beard - Octane
Marillion - Jesters Tear, Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood
Tool - Lateralus, Aenima, 10,000 Days
Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A
so many others
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huh? 
Most of those albums you listed, Marillion, Spock's Beard and some others, really can't be called complex at all, and much less in the Neo-Prog genre, they're not bad bands, I love Marillion, but complex?!? Come on!
We need Avant-Garde or Zeuhl for nice and complex music. Then you got, off what you listed, Relayer, Tales from Topographic Oceans, those are good choices.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 20:37 |
I don't have the slightest idea of which is the most complex Prog band, but I know probably I won't like them.
Complexity alone is annoying, I heard some bands hat are only screams and weird sounds mixed in a terrible cacophony, not for me.
But everybody has his/her own taste.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 09 2008 at 21:13
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 20:32 |
Classic Prog:
Listen to Yes - Tales from Topographic, Relayer, Close to the Edge
VDGG - Pawn Hearts, H to He..., Real Life, The leastwecandois..... - all of them really
Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination
Gentle Giant - Three Friends, Octopus
King Crimson - ITCOTCK, Lizard, Red
Genesis - Foxtrot (Suppers Ready), Nursery Cryme
ELP - BSSurgery, Pictures at an Exhibition, Tarkus
Neo-Prog:
Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory, Awake, Images and Words, Octavarium
Spocks Beard - Octane
Marillion - Jesters Tear, Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood
Tool - Lateralus, Aenima, 10,000 Days
Radiohead - OK Computer, Kid A
so many others
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peskypesky
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 15:26 |
Erpland316 wrote:
We can end this debate by all listening to Birds of Fire or Inner Mounting Flame by Mahavishnu Orchestra! |
but I still think some of Yes's stuff is in the conversation.
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peskypesky
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 15:16 |
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"Sound Chaser" by Yes is pretty insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rIj6dt7uc&feature=related
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Prog fan since 1974.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 15:10 |
Well what a tough subject, but for me the most obvious group that playing complex prog are Gentle Giant, but are more and more groups that playing complex prog, in fact prog is a complex form of music so you have to redifine your question. 
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zicIy
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 02:20 |
so many the bands/artsts and their great and complexity albums are already mentioned; i would mentioned some too:
TODD RUNDGREN ("Todd","Utopia" "Initiation","Ra"), FAMILY ("Family Entertainment", "Fearless", "Bandstand"), THE PENTAGLE ("Solomonīs Seal", "Sweet Child", "Basket Of Light"), TONTON MACOUTE (s/t), FAIRPORT CONVENTION ("What We Did At Our Holydays", "Unahalfabricking", "Babbacombe Lee", "Rising Of The Moon"), HAWKWIND ("In Search Of Space","Space Ritual Live", "Astounding Sound") BACK DOOR ("8th Street Blues", "Activate") JETHRO TULL ( "Aqualung", "Thick As A Brick", "A Passion Play", "Songs From The Wood", "Heavy Horses"), ITīS A BEAUTIFUL DAY (s/t, "Marrying Maiden", "Today", "Live At Carnegie Hall") DAVID LAFLAMME ("White Bird"), INCREDIBLE STRING BAND ("The Hangmanīs Beautiful Doughter")
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bernsteinp
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Posted: June 03 2008 at 18:07 |
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King Crimson is on top, to me. Emerson Lake & Palmer comes in fairly close, but their arrangements tend not to assign a complicated part to each instrument at once, unlike King Crimson. i would say Yes, except for the fact the Wakeman and Howe are so sloppy, and Squire's line aren't really complex; they just sound like no other bassist you've ever heard.
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Kurpij
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Posted: June 03 2008 at 00:00 |
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Yes, ELP, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Van der Graaf Generator.
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fusionfreak
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 11:05 |
Depeche Mode,Steve Strange,Frankie goes to Hollywood.....I'm just kidding.I would say Mahavishnu Orchestra,Magma,KC,Samla Mannas Manna,Gaa,Area,VDGG,Henry Cow.A point of view which doesn't
stand out.
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
of searchers with the help from
crimson king
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Demonoid
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 07:50 |
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Pain of salvation when it comes to prog. metal.
I don't know any dream theater album or any prog metal band as complex as them.(maybe Meshuggah in terms of rhythm as it might take quite a few listens to even get their whole style of music)
I'm not talking about instruments alone.
Rarely do you come across prog. bands expressing emotions the way they do!
In terms of prog. rock-VDGG as i said b4 and ill add ELP(I can never convince ppl to listen to them)
Edited by Demonoid - June 02 2008 at 08:12
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Cthulu
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Posted: May 29 2008 at 03:11 |
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Maybe the topic should be redefined as 'most...intricate'?!? Either way I'll say Gentle Giant and Happy the Man.
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Drew
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Posted: May 29 2008 at 00:08 |
Man Overboard wrote:
5 pages and no mention of the Flower Kings? I know their liberal use of melody generally keeps them from springing to mind, but anyone with any background in music theory can't argue the ridiculously awesome complexity TFK love to casually bring to the table... especially the Rainmaker album as a whole.
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jammun
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Posted: May 28 2008 at 23:52 |
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Probably Keith Jarrett on a good day.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: May 28 2008 at 22:37 |
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5 pages and no mention of the Flower Kings? I know their liberal use of melody generally keeps them from springing to mind, but anyone with any background in music theory can't argue the ridiculously awesome complexity TFK love to casually bring to the table... especially the Rainmaker album as a whole.
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*frinspar*
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Posted: May 28 2008 at 21:44 |
PinkPangolin wrote:
I don't think it's important to be complex to sound proggy. It just has to sound good.
Sometimes simple is beautiful - aren't Pink Floyd in this vein?
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Very true. There can be magic in properly placed silence or simplicity, too.
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*frinspar*
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Posted: May 28 2008 at 21:41 |
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GG for sure.
I'd add - from the fringes or weirdness:
Secret Chiefs 3 (Bungle offshoot)
Estradasphere/Don Salsa
Ruins
Fantomas
Pain of Salvation creates some dense and complex passages
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PinkPangolin
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Posted: May 28 2008 at 18:50 |
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I don't think it's important to be complex to sound proggy. It just has to sound good.
Sometimes simple is beautiful - aren't Pink Floyd in this vein?
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Demonoid
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Posted: May 27 2008 at 14:03 |
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VDGG
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metalisgood
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Posted: May 24 2008 at 22:30 |
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Unexpect probably...
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The most musically complex prog band(s)?
