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Zitro ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1321 |
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so, what do u think now that smaller and smaller planets are being discovered?
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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In my thinking....
"If.... ....there is a Creator, then I don't know. He'd probably want to study or occupy his time with more than us, so why not have other life-filled planets" ....there is no Creator, then hell yes! Countless stars, countless possibilities. We can't be the only ones who've done it." |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Most likely. Anyone interested can look up the Drake equation and other related arguments and hypotheses.
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Queen By-Tor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
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In the infinite universe I'm sure we're no special exception to the
rule of space being a vacuum. I'm sure there's something out there,
even if we never meet.
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Kestrel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 18 2008 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 512 |
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There probably are, but I doubt we'll ever meet. The nearest galaxy to ours is the Andromeda Galaxy which is 2.5 million light-years away. If we ever developed technology that could bring us near the speed of light... it would still take us 2.5 million years to get there. Unless we develop some teleport technology or wormhole stuff or something... I don't see a point in even thinking there is anything out there. Edit: I guess there are closer galaxies to us than the Andromeda galaxy; it's just the nearest spiral galaxy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nearest_galaxies Even with the closest one which is .02 million light years away... that's still 20,000 light years away... I can't imagine ever reaching that. Unless Star Trek happens. Edited by Kestrel - July 07 2008 at 18:24 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Ah, that would be me then
![]() The Drake equation (N = N* fp ne fl fi fc fL) is concerned with predicting the number of planets that could support a technological intelligent lifeform whose electromagnetic radiation (tv, radio etc.) we could detect now, so it specifically concerns itself with planets within our galaxy. What it does not predict is the infinitesimally small probability of us ever detected said radiation.
So, since we can never hope to detect the technological intelligent lifeforms in our own galaxy, there is no reason to exclude the other galaxies in the Universes and we can also remove the intelligence, technological and planetary lifetime factors from the equation, therefore the total number of possible planets that possibly could support (or have supported, or will support) life of any kind is, as they say, astronomical.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Star Trek Voyager was stranded in the Delta quadrant of this galaxy (75,000 light-years away) and it was supposed to take them 75 years to get back (average speed of Warp 6). So 20,000 light-years would be 20 years.
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Kestrel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 18 2008 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 512 |
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Haha, so even in our imaginations we are not capable of such speeds. I've only seen a couple episodes of Star Trek so I had no idea how fast they could go. Do you happen to know Star Wars speeds? |
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Kestrel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 18 2008 Location: Minnesota Status: Offline Points: 512 |
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Haha. Well, this http://www.theforce.net/swtc/hyperspace.html#speed says 120,000c.
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Statutory-Mike ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
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The Drake Equation is pretty interesting, I'm thinking there is but we won't come in contact with them anytime soon.
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Ah, I knew you would find your way to this thread. ![]() Such an interesting topic - led me on about an hour's worth of "wiki-ing" that had me reading about the Cambrian explosion and the evolution of the eye. ![]() |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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like a circling buzzard ![]()
The eye is the easy bit - 'tis colour vision that takes some explaining
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Even staying within our own galaxy (which I consider big enough for our current purposes, thank you very much ![]() Remember the wise old (and late) Douglas Adams: Space is big. Edited by NaturalScience - July 07 2008 at 21:10 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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It annoys me when that happens... I was doing that earlier. ![]() |
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BroSpence ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
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is difficult
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Norbert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 20 2005 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 2506 |
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There is a life on Kobaia.
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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Life, absolutely. Intelligent life, I'm not so sure. Probably not in this time, in this galaxy. Pity...
But then again, many values of parameters in Drake's equation are unknown, so I can at least hope.. |
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67448 |
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What is life anyway?
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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not in our solar system but it is possible in others.
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