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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 21:50
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Okay, James officially got me really interesting in Soft Machine, it being the first Canterbury band I had heard.
And now, I shall go forth and seek out their albumsBig%20smile


Good!

Pretty much everything Canterbury rules.  Please check in here early and often with comments and questions.  Big%20smile
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Points: 7991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 22:28
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

The Muffins
 
Yes.
 
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Cos
 
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Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

The Muffins
 
Yes.
 
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Cos
 
Yes.


Not sure why I would have expected a different answer.  ConfusedWink
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The Muffins

Yes... especially Chronometers

Cos

Not heard them yet... must rectify this!

As for Soft Machine... get the two BBC CDs as well as both are a gine overview of all eras of Soft Machine up to Etheridge-era.

Floating World Live is also excellent.  I am sure you've read my review already. Wink  That reminds me... I must dig it out again and give it a listen.
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Points: 7991 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2008 at 19:37
Manna/Mirage and Viva Boma are the best places to start for each of them. Both bands are really great.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2008 at 19:51
Originally posted by James James wrote:

The Muffins

Yes... especially Chronometers

Cos

Not heard them yet... must rectify this!

As for Soft Machine... get the two BBC CDs as well as both are a gine overview of all eras of Soft Machine up to Etheridge-era.

Floating World Live is also excellent.  I am sure you've read my review already. Wink  That reminds me... I must dig it out again and give it a listen.


Ah, shall check out the BBC stuff then if I can.

Nope, haven't read your review, I'll go read it.
One of you're many thousands of reviewsLOL
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2008 at 20:34
Like I said somewhere else, if you don't pick up Dave Stewart material soon, it's an epic fail.
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^I'll try to get some before 2012.

Seriously though, I've got jack all money right now, so at best I could download stuff, but my download limit is smaller than an ant, arghhhh.
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Oh yes Manna/Mirage is indeed great.  Is that the one featuring Frith?
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I posted something here about Floating World Live, but my post is gone...odd.

Anyway, great playing by Holdsworth on it, it's just a wonderful record.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Oh yes Manna/Mirage is indeed great.  Is that the one featuring Frith?
 
Frith didn't play on that one; he was, however, on the followup, 185.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Oh yes Manna/Mirage is indeed great. 


Just ordered it.  Thumbs%20Up
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Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Oh yes Manna/Mirage is indeed great.  Is that the one featuring Frith?
 
Frith didn't play on that one; he was, however, on the followup, 185.


Oh yes, that's right.

I enjoy all of their albums but one of them is Canterbury whilst 185 is more like RIO.  So if you prefer Canterbury, Manna/Mirage is probably the best place to begin.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Still haven't obtained any more Caravan, bah.  Although I must admit they're probably among my least favorite Canterbury bands, the only good thing is that means they're still awesome.  Tongue


I've already got the feelin they will be the least favorite Canterbury band if I hear them once I've heard all the rest of the main ones, if indeed I like Caravan at all, but even so I recognize their contribution to music in generalSmile

BTW, I heard Facelife from Third, very crazy.
I'm now curious about Holdsworth's contribution to the band, as I've kinda made it known I dig his playing a lot.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Still haven't obtained any more Caravan, bah.  Although I must admit they're probably among my least favorite Canterbury bands, the only good thing is that means they're still awesome.  Tongue


I've already got the feelin they will be the least favorite Canterbury band if I hear them once I've heard all the rest of the main ones, if indeed I like Caravan at all, but even so I recognize their contribution to music in generalSmile

BTW, I heard Facelife from Third, very crazy.
I'm now curious about Holdsworth's contribution to the band, as I've kinda made it known I dig his playing a lot.
 
In some respects AH joining SM was a radical departure, except Holdsworth is/has been renown for wanting to be a saxophonist more than your average guitarists and you can hear that come through more often than not - woodwind players go back to Brian Hopper also on Volume 2. The story goes Karl Jenkins didn't fancy taking the main lead duties, whilst Mike Ratledge  was in his dotage, so Holdsworth was drafted in. The previous guitarist had been future Policeman Andy Summers but that for USA touring only in 1969. Kevin Ayers dabbled and then you get back to Daevid Allen in 1967. Somebody is playing acoustic guitar  to Wyatt's vocals on Dedicated To You... (on Volume 2), was that Hugh Hopper?
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2008 at 11:02
That Andy Summers reference reminded me...I was reading through the liner notes of my Police box set (basically contains all their studio releases) and was astonished at all the prog links - I had gotten the set when I was a lot younger and not heard of these bands - particularly Mike Howlett (ex-Gong) trying to recruit Sting and Summers into a band called Strontium 90, as a sort of Gong reunion band - then Wikipedia claims Howlett wanted Chris Cutler to play drums!  Then of course Stewart Copeland was in Curved Air...some really great stories here!
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Points: 12814 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2008 at 16:38
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

That Andy Summers reference reminded me...I was reading through the liner notes of my Police box set (basically contains all their studio releases) and was astonished at all the prog links - I had gotten the set when I was a lot younger and not heard of these bands - particularly Mike Howlett (ex-Gong) trying to recruit Sting and Summers into a band called Strontium 90, as a sort of Gong reunion band - then Wikipedia claims Howlett wanted Chris Cutler to play drums!  Then of course Stewart Copeland was in Curved Air...some really great stories here!


Then of course Copeland was married to Sonja Kristina, so it wasn't only the music he was intoWink  Andy Summers in his excellent autobiography (see the book thread) relates sadly how every member of Police had their marriages fold under them because of tour pressures and those temptations on offer during those tours
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Still haven't obtained any more Caravan, bah.  Although I must admit they're probably among my least favorite Canterbury bands, the only good thing is that means they're still awesome.  Tongue


I've already got the feelin they will be the least favorite Canterbury band if I hear them once I've heard all the rest of the main ones, if indeed I like Caravan at all, but even so I recognize their contribution to music in generalSmile

BTW, I heard Facelife from Third, very crazy.
I'm now curious about Holdsworth's contribution to the band, as I've kinda made it known I dig his playing a lot.
 
In some respects AH joining SM was a radical departure, except Holdsworth is/has been renown for wanting to be a saxophonist more than your average guitarists and you can hear that come through more often than not - woodwind players go back to Brian Hopper also on Volume 2. The story goes Karl Jenkins didn't fancy taking the main lead duties, whilst Mike Ratledge  was in his dotage, so Holdsworth was drafted in. The previous guitarist had been future Policeman Andy Summers but that for USA touring only in 1969. Kevin Ayers dabbled and then you get back to Daevid Allen in 1967. Somebody is playing acoustic guitar  to Wyatt's vocals on Dedicated To You... (on Volume 2), was that Hugh Hopper?


Holdsworth has been quoted as saying he "doesnt really like the sound of the guitar" and prefers the sound of the saxophone. An odd man really, but I think it's pretty clear he probably loves the guitar. His smooth high gain legato sound was his attempt to sound like a saxophone I guess, but hell who cares his tone is good anyway. Thanks for that bit of info too

And yes, on Volume Two, Hugh Hopper did indeed play acoustic guitar.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Still haven't obtained any more Caravan, bah.  Although I must admit they're probably among my least favorite Canterbury bands, the only good thing is that means they're still awesome.  Tongue


I've already got the feelin they will be the least favorite Canterbury band if I hear them once I've heard all the rest of the main ones, if indeed I like Caravan at all, but even so I recognize their contribution to music in generalSmile

BTW, I heard Facelife from Third, very crazy.
I'm now curious about Holdsworth's contribution to the band, as I've kinda made it known I dig his playing a lot.
 
In some respects AH joining SM was a radical departure, except Holdsworth is/has been renown for wanting to be a saxophonist more than your average guitarists and you can hear that come through more often than not - woodwind players go back to Brian Hopper also on Volume 2. The story goes Karl Jenkins didn't fancy taking the main lead duties, whilst Mike Ratledge  was in his dotage, so Holdsworth was drafted in. The previous guitarist had been future Policeman Andy Summers but that for USA touring only in 1969. Kevin Ayers dabbled and then you get back to Daevid Allen in 1967. Somebody is playing acoustic guitar  to Wyatt's vocals on Dedicated To You... (on Volume 2), was that Hugh Hopper?


Yes it was Hugh Hopper. Wink
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Mike Howlett has also since produced many bands and musicians... including Gang of Four, A Flock of Seagulls, Martha and the Muffins and The Thompson Twins.

That's quite a leap from being a member of Gong!
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