What was the first review ever written for PA? |
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Shakespeare
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Topic: What was the first review ever written for PA? Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:14 |
Just out of curiosity. Anyone know? Maybe MAX or one the really old members know.
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Online Points: 16913 |
Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:19 |
Cool question. And who were the very first prog reviewers?
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 17 2008 at 22:55 |
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: June 18 2008 at 01:01 |
You can hardly call it a review, though. |
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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:01 |
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21151 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:13 |
^ I had a similar idea, but it seems like the review ids were not generated sequentially. Or maybe the date shown on the review page shows the date when the review was last edited?
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:28 |
it isn't hdfisch's. I mean, maani wrote an earlier one, in 2004, hdfisch's is dated 2005.
Besides, Seance is added band #44xx. I should say the first review was made for one of the very first bands which to be added. The first band to be added was Genesis, so... |
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Peter
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 08:53 |
"Really old?"
In the face of silence from Max and Ron, and as the longest-serving PA forum member still active (I was the third person to join the forum, after "Dude" and Maani/Ian Alterman), I believe I can shed some light on this, if memory serves:
Over five years ago, I stumbled upon PA, quite by accident. At that time, there was no forum, but there was a guest book, which I (and Maani, and a few others) used to post in. PA was already a going concern Max and Ron purchased it as a pre-existing entity), and already featured reviews. Max and Ron were among the reviewers, as was, I do believe, one Eric Neutboom (sp?), who, I believe, wrote reviews semi-professionally, and had his stuff on the site (though not, I believe, written expressly for PA.
(I hope I am naming the right person -- I do know he had tons of reviews, and they used to flood in!)
I soon offered my services as a reviewer, and as one who could help with language issues (both owners are Francophones, and much of the site's text was in non-standard English), and when Maani noticed the "Prog Reviewer" title attached to my name and reviews, he asked me how I had gotten that "vaunted" status. Soon he too was an official PA reviewer.
if you look at the list of PA Collaborators, the Reviewers are listed in the order in which they joined (thus I am near the top), but this later changed a bit to give "place of precedence" to those with administrative/moderating duties. Thus Maani appears right before me -- despite his becoming a PA Reviewer after me -- because he later became the forum's first Moderator. Still, reviewers are mostly listed in order of joining. You can then view an individual PA Reviewer's reviews chronologically, simply by selecting that option when viewing his or her list of reviews.
Here's a link to the first review I wrote, anyway. It dates from December 2nd, 2003 -- like all PA reviews, its exact submission date appears on it. You may notice that compared to those I later wrote, my early reviews were rather brief, and somewhat lacking in detail. (I later augmented many of those early efforts):
Still, the best people to answer your question in more accurate detail are the owners, Max and Ron. Edited by Peter - June 18 2008 at 09:42 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:11 |
So does that mean, since your review came from December the 2nd, 2003, you joined PA then, but the joining date your profile shows of 31 1st of Jan is when you first began posting and thus, a member of the forum as such?
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Peter
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:27 |
^ Yes Hughes, the difference in the dates simply reflects the fact that there was a PA, and PA Reviewers, before there was a PA Forum.
I would likely have "joined" PA (that is, started posting in the original guest book) some few days before writing that first review of mine. I guess I became an "official" Reviewer immediately prior to my submission of that review.
I was one of the first to strongly push for a forum, BTW, after Max had indicated the possibility of starting one, and sought input as to what features we might like to have added to the site. Edited by Peter - June 18 2008 at 09:38 |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: June 18 2008 at 09:30 |
Ah, thanks for clearing that up Peter
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Statutory-Mike
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 15 2008 Location: Long Island Status: Offline Points: 3737 |
Posted: June 19 2008 at 23:26 |
Thank you for pushing for the forum, without it I don't know what I'd be doing right now...probably sleeping .
I envy those who were first around when PA just started. You get the awesome user names...pretty much anything you'd like
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: July 27 2008 at 06:24 |
So, basically, it's all Peter's fault!!
I could have been living a more productive lifestyle like watching Soap Operas or reading trashy magazines but for him! |
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dude
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2004 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1338 |
Posted: July 27 2008 at 09:26 |
I dont know what was the first review proper was,but there were certainly mini reviews (more opinions) within the forums themselves by the likes of Peter ,Jim Garten Dan Bobrowski ,Maani etc with appropriatly inane and incoherent responses from yours truly
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clarke2001
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: July 27 2008 at 09:58 |
Oh, a living legend posted So, you were first to replay M@X in this thread.. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2 |
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dude
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2004 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1338 |
Posted: July 27 2008 at 10:08 |
wow i had forgotten about that,but i think i may have posted something a short time before that but im not sure.....memory dims with age you know!!
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: July 27 2008 at 11:09 |
[QUOTE=dude] THE WAY THIS SITE IS GOING I THINK IT WILL BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND MOST INFLUENTIAL SITES OF ITS KIND ON THE NET
AND I LIKE TO THINK THE LIKES OF Peter Rideout, Jim Garten,Danbo,Vibrationbaby,Tauhd Zia,Velvetclown,Alexander,joren and all those who joined in the first few weeks(including to a very small extent yours truly)were there at the start of something unique QUOTE] from almost four years ago....DUDE, I think you were on to something bro! |
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