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Padraic
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Posted: April 02 2008 at 10:22 |
Maybe KC should request all stores and online retailers pull their CDs as well. Then they can ask those of us with CDs to destroy them. Once all the King Crimson music in the world has been destroyed, it can't possibly be pirated! Take that freeloaders!
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: April 02 2008 at 10:04 |
WHAT?? You mean no one was paying money to listen to a song?? Someone must be punished for this!!
Would Fripp have asked that his songs not be played on the radio?
Apparently if the RIAA had their way, when you buy a CD you would have to pay them royalties for every single time you listen to any song. You don't buy a recording of the music, you buy temporary rights to listen to the music. But of course, if anyone else can hear it, that constitutes public performance, so you either have to pay extra or listen alone in a dark soundproof room.
This is absolutely out of hand. IT IS 2008, PEOPLE! If you haven't realized by now that allowing people to listen to something before they buy it might make them more inclined to actually purchase it instead of passing over it entirely, then I don't know what to tell you.
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 02 2008 at 05:11 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ well, he's not maximising his earnings by the crappy selection of live recordings available on their myspace page ... |
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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tuxon
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 22:49 |
As a counter measure i will no longer advocate KC's music, instead i will delete my reviews and replace them with 1 star ratings, that will teach him (and lower my trustability, so i guess I will not)
Edited by tuxon - March 29 2008 at 22:50
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 21:16 |
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Fripp would be a whiny bitch, musicians from the '70s don't seem to understand the internet at all, especially considering some of the odd, egocentric stuff that he's pulled in the past (like going on tour with every player but him illuminated). Oh well, just another reason to dislike KC. ;-)
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 17:30 |
^ well, he's not maximising his earnings by the crappy selection of live recordings available on their myspace page ...
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Tony R
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 17:28 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ it must be Mr. Fripp himself then ... he can join the club of internet-hating musicians, along with Metallica and Prince.
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I read his blog. He also stopped further production of the "Inside Story" DVD about KC. At the end of the day he's protecting and maximising his earnings. Good for him.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 16:52 |
^ it must be Mr. Fripp himself then ... he can join the club of internet-hating musicians, along with Metallica and Prince.
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Tony R
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 16:41 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 10:48 |
^ Well, with the advent of websites like last.fm, myspace.com and youtube.com the situation has changed a lot compared to two years ago. For every major band - and most recent small/obscure bands - you can access high quality samples, there's no need for the archives to provide them. Of course I know why they're still here - to attract visitors and boost ad revenue.
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BaldJean
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Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 10:15 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I simply think that artists have the right to decide which websites host their content ... making it available without asking them first always bears the risk of legal consequences. And often it's not the artists themselves but their management and/or record companies who decide to take legal action. |
of course they do; I don't deny them that right. I just think it is shortsighted. ah well; Mr. Fripp is known to wear glasses
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 10:10 |
I simply think that artists have the right to decide which websites host their content ... making it available without asking them first always bears the risk of legal consequences. And often it's not the artists themselves but their management and/or record companies who decide to take legal action.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia - March 29 2008 at 10:11
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 10:01 |
I would at least reply to that message and explain the situation; maybe not all is lost yet
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Sean Trane
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 09:51 |
micky wrote:
how prog is that..... let's just remove them from the damn site as well. |
we should
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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laplace
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 09:36 |
micky wrote:
how prog is that..... let's just remove them from the damn site as well.
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It's progressive in terms of not doing what everyone wants you to do - perfect Frippness! =P
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 09:33 |
it is strange indeed; I also think KC will lose some publicity this way only. as if the few songs that could be heard on this site would really itch his ass
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Padraic
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 09:29 |
micky wrote:
Fripp needs new lawyers... they don't need to be coming after sites like this.... but...ahem... others. This isn't the site costing them money.
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No kidding. Wonder if it was actually just lawyers being overzealous (probably wouldn't know their ass from their elbow when it comes to prog anyway), or is Fripp really standing by this. If the latter...hey, this site was basically doing free marketing for you...if you don't want it, that's your call - guess a few disgruntled fans ain't hurting your bottom line...
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Visitor13
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 09:15 |
Heh.
My cousin wanted to get a better picture of the breadth of KC's sound, so I directed him to Progarchives' KC entry for the music.
No problem though, Mr Fripp isn't special, there's more than enough other great music out there to last my cousin a lifetime.
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Drew
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Location: California
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 23:25 |
gotcha.
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micky
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 23:21 |
Drew wrote:
other prog sites micky?
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not other 'prog' sites that I am aware of... personal sites....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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