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kenmartree
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 02:43 | |
Sorry I'm a bit late responding as I want to talk about Trespass and you did that a while ago. I love Trespass and I don't think it's far fetched to say that Gabriel's vocals here are as good as they get, they are not better than some of the stuff on the Lamb and SEBTP but equally good. Great review BTW. I could hear the music in my head as I read it.
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micky
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 20:16 | |
yes... it is a great stand alone album.. and actually prefer the album to it's predecessor.... it might have been similar.. but you know what.. burn me at the stake... I simply think it is a better album.
glad you came around in a way on Cat Food.... I ADORE that song... did from the first listen.... another great review.... a promotion I see in your future |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 26 2008 at 18:17 | |
Review 18, In The Wake Of Poseidon, King Crimson, 1970 This album had the unfortunate disadvantage of following In The Court Of The Crimson King. After such a stunning debut, it seemed unlikely that a somewhat changed and unstable line-up (with Peter Giles replacing Greg Lake's bass, Keith Tippett's jazz piano contributions and Mel Collins replacing Ian McDonald's saxes and flutes. Fripp takes over the mellotron, and Gordon Haskell provides one vocal) could possibly follow up on the band's promise. The resulting album, In The Wake Of Poseidon is an absolutely superb effort, and in no way the 'sticking to the formula' that some have accused it of being. Superficially, you have a fairly fast jazz rock song featuring sax, an 'epic' with mellotron, and a softer song on both, but really that's about the extent of the similarity. This is, even if not quite as mindblowing as Court, an absolutely essential album, because of The Devil's Triangle, the acoustics on the title track, and Mike Giles' second dose of absolutely amazing drumming. The album begins with a distant vocal from Lake, the first of the three enjoyable peace segments, with a couple of taps on acoustics at the end. Peace – A Theme, is a pure acoustic guitar solo, which is enjoyable, but not really a standout track. The final Peace – An End section begins with Greg Lake's vocal as quite unsteady, presumably to show Sinfield's ideas of moving towards a conclusion, but really, I think it just seems weak here. It is a lovely ending though, with a little more minimalist acoustic playing from Fripp, and lyrically beautiful. Pictures Of A City is the faster jazz rock piece mentioned earlier. Opened mostly by Peter Giles' twanging bass and a smoky sax from Collins, with a tremendous drum roll thing, Lake enters the song, with his gripping vocal. After a couple of verses, Fripp kicks in with his insane fast jazz guitar, and then moves to a softer bass-and-drums-dominated break, to a faster pace lead back into the final verse (lyrically it merges parts of the previous two). The music and lyrics are joined perfectly, a series of images, flashing past. Lyrically, I think this is also the song that best lives up to what Pete Sinfield achieved on Court. Gripping, working well independently and in the context of its album. It ends by ascending into chaos, and sharply contrasts with the soft follower, which is really the biggest (in my opinion, the only) justification of the Court doppelganger comments of many reviewers. Cadence And Cascade is the album's
problem for me. Gordon Haskell really seems quite weak as a vocalist
compared to the superb Greg Lake and, despite the truly superb work
from all the musicians involved, the song fails to really grip me.
Tippet and Mike Giles really stand out on this one, though, and the
flute part from Collins is enjoyable. The jazzy Cat Food was hate at first listen, but I've really grown to enjoy it. A bass-driven song, to which Tippet's chaotic piano provides the real substance, while the drums tap away in a suitably unpredictable fashion. Following the end of the vocals, Fripp comes in with a few good acoustic chords, and adds something else to the song. Lyrically, a fairly clever hammering of commercial advertising. The Devil's Triangle is perhaps the most visceral reinterpretation of a classical piece, ever. Based on Holst's 'Mars, The Bringer Of War', it takes the basic outline and ideas of the original and provides savage biting ideas, dark atmosphere, and a general utter amelodic chaos to the mix. On Merday Morn, Fripp shows off the whining guitar sound that he'll master on Prince Rupert's Lament and ample mellotron handling, while Tippet and Collins are the other two standouts. Collins for just playing notes that don't seem to fit, but add to the feel very perfectly, and Tippet for his ability to use a piano to create angry textures even if it's unconventional. The Garden Of Scion, I think, begins with a chaotic windy section that'd be seen later on Pink Floyd's Meddle album, and continues in a much more jazzy style, with Tippet, Pete Giles and Collins carrying all before them. This moves to an almost comical drawn out violin-like wail and an echo of Court's vocal harmonies, and slowly and chaotically just generally does what the hell it likes before Collins' flute and Fripp's acoustics bring it back to the final peace section. I've got to give Sinfield credit for his choice of names, and I'm quite glad that the band was actually refused permission to use the classical piece's name: this creation is far too unique for that. An experimental, daring piece. Not to be missed. Perhaps the most unfortunate feature of
the remaster (see Tales From Topographic Oceans or Brain Salad
Surgery for comparison. Same problem.) is the inclusion of bonus
material. While having Groon and the single version of Cat Food in
some form wouldn't otherwise be a bad thing, they completely ruin the
effect of the album's three Peace sections and damage the lyrical
ideas built up throughout the song. Favourite Track: Pictures Of A City (with a nod to The Devil's Triangle) Rating: Four Stars ---- Considered giving it a five at one point, but thought better after much consideration. Superb album. Reminds me: I need to get the McDonald & Giles album soon (as well as a David Cross album or two, I think). |
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CCVP
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 17:06 | |
Great album that is very underrated because people keep comparing it to In the Court. It is true that its not the best Crimson album, but it is still a terrific album. On a 0 to 10 grade i would give it 8. |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 14:23 | |
Many thanks, Micky and CCVP for the compliments.
Certif1ed was responsible for my own understanding of the track (which I've always liked in an abstract way regarding how it prepared for Court, but not in and of itself), so I felt it was my duty to at least post a link here. Anyway, Court has now reached my widely coveted 2nd-best album ever spot. Time to slave away at hammering something out for ITWOP. On that topic: Does anyone else believe that In The Wake Of Poseidon is a great stand-alone effort, rather than sticking to the formula of the previous album. I mean, superficially, you have one fast rocking song with vicious lyrics, one grand song with a bit of mellotron, and one softer, shorter song on each album, but really, I think people go too far with the comparison because of this. The individual compositions are really pretty different in their emphasis. Not quite sure if it qualifies for masterpiece status for me, largely because of Cadence And Cascade, which has never been my favourite, even if I'm warming to Cat Food, but I'm not certain whether I would have decided not to award it the fifth star if it wasn't for Court. So, thoughts on this, everyone? --- also, just put in a large progressive order. Thanks to Micky for his part in introducing me to Magma and Il Balletto di Bronzo. Edited by TGM: Orb - March 25 2008 at 14:24 |
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micky
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 19:44 | |
Nice review of 'in the Court...' and especially shrewd in pointing out Mark's review. His review of that album was one of the best single reviews I've read here... and his thoughts on Moonchild in particular was the proverbial throwing of the lightswitch for me on that. I tended to be ...scathing in my commentaries here on that track. It will never be one of my favorites.. .but I have actually started to enjoy it rather than go into convultions and bleed from the ears.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 18:07 | |
You reviews are so good i think im gonna steal them and post em like they are mine lol (just kidding)
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 14:08 | |
Review 17, In the Court Of the Crimson King, King Crimson, 1969 An old crush, that I can never, no matter how hard I try, get rid of. I have managed to persuade myself at different times that it's not that groundbreaking, decide that Court itself is way too bombastic, and that the mellotron is too thick for me, that the improvisation on The Illusion is utterly pointless, that this album doesn't deserve even five stars. However, every time I hear the first throb of 21st Century Schizoid Man, all these delusions disappear. An absolutely stunning album from start to finish. Much like ELP's debut, this is only made more amazing by the variety of material on the album: jazz rock, softer songs, an extended improvised section, grandiose emotional pieces with a very epic feel. Artistic and emotive, very musically tight and diverse, and with Sinfield's amazing lyrics fitting each song perfectly. Just perfect. An almost unique six star rating (the other being Larks' Tongues In Aspic). 21st Century Schizoid Man is, in my opinion, the greatest opener ever, perhaps even the greatest song ever. Two subdued throbs on a mellotron give way to a driving, powerful sax riff, Fripp's guitar with fuzz box hammering through behind it, stunning drumming from Mike Giles and Lake's almost-spat out, distorted vocals. After the second verse, it moves into a stunning jazzy 'jam' (I don't know quite how to describe it: too organised and tight to be a 'jam') with bass, sax, drums and jazz guitar emerging from the mix at different moments, and then a forceful, brilliant return to the main riff. The last verse takes the song to another peak, and it ends with an insane, chaotic splintering combination of the instruments. Sinfield provides brilliant, gripping, evocative lyrics, perfectly fitting the music. Designed to be played in a dark room at an obscene volume. This song alone has more merit than most complete albums. I Talk To The Wind is a very sharp contrast to the opener, but it works superbly in the context. A very soft song, particularly showcasing Greg Lake's voice, a beautiful flute part from Ian McDonald and Mike Giles' enchanting percussion. The vocal and instrumental sections both stand out. Truly magical. Sinfield's lyrics again fit in very neatly, and can really transport the listener to another state of mind. Very simple in format, but nonetheless perfect. Not your average ballad. Epitaph can only be described by
itself. Pure emotion trapped inside 8 minutes and 47 seconds of
music. Again, a completely outstanding song, with more of Sinfield's
superb lyrical contributions. Greg Lake's vocals, Fripp's acoustic
guitar, McDonald's mellotron and piano and Mike Giles' drumming
especially stand out. In fact, everything stands out. Another dose of
musical perfection, and another dose of imagery. Moonchild is the strangest of the expressions in the album, but no less effective. It begins with the haunting Dream, with the sublime guitar part from Fripp, a bit of subtly used Mellotron and Greg Lake's beautiful vocals introducing the idea: moonlight. Mike Giles provides more of his unusual percussion. After a few minutes, the largely improvised (according to most things I've heard about it) 'The Illusion' section begins. It echoes and brings up the lyrics and the imagery, cycling through the actions of the moonlight described by Sinfield's lyrics. The improvisation leads fluently to another arranged section, suggesting a slow dawn, and the shadows of the night gradually vanishing. A musical painting, and a greatly under-rated one. In The Court Of The Crimson King crashes into existence with a thu-thu-thu-thub from Mike Giles and the suffocating, thick mellotron riff that is the core of the song. The verses are composed mainly of pretty acoustic guitar, vocals and a careful, directing drum part, and have a very medieval feel. As it moves onto the repeated 'chorus' line, perhaps the most impressive use of block vocals in rock history, the choking mellotron returns. Sinfield again provides superb lyrics with a very bitter, dark edge. Of especial note are the instrumental Return Of The Fire Witch, highlighting Ian McDonald's skill on the flute, with a sort of weird borderline improvisation around it from Lake, Fripp and Giles, and the double-conclusion. The first conclusion is a relatively simple vocal or mellotron (can't really tell which) fade out, probably responsible for the end of Genesis' Visions Of Angels. Giles provides a couple of taps on the percussion, and a mocking reed organ begins playing. We are treated to a brief solo from Mike Giles, and then McDonald and the band return to provide a full overblown repeat of the main riff, driving slowly towards a superb and hectic conclusion, echoing the end of Schizoid Man. One of my introductions to prog rock, and yet still improving with every listen. Mike Giles' drumming here is perhaps my joint favourite for any album overall (together with ELP's Tarkus), and demonstrates how you can escape the mould for a musician even as a drummer. If not for Robert Fripp's ability to go on and keep making superb material with several completely different line-ups of King Crimson, the departure of Lake, Giles and McDonald after this album would be an utter tragedy. This album is genuine art as music. Peter Sinfield's lyrics, as I have pointed out earlier, are absolutely the best throughout this album, on a par with Roger Waters' Echoes. A stunning series of images, and a true observation. Art at its finest.
Favourite Track: 21st Century Schizoid Man -------- Only after very deep and angsty examinations of the rating, I've decided that Court does merit the elusive, not even within the rating system, sixth star. The review's mainly late because I had to re-listen to Moonchild in the context of reading Certif1ed's review, I had a DOE practise expedition (please, don't ask...) to go through, and I had actually forgotten the sheer extent of my fawning fandom of this particular Crimson album, and some of its merits are only just being revealed to me. Two things concerning In The Court Of The Crimson King: First A great bow to Certif1ed's particularly amazing review of ITCOTCK. It's been responsible for my own turnaround with regards to Moonchild, which I'd previously thought wasn't particularly stunning, and also was a great read in and of itself, combining considerable technical and musical knowledge with easy reading for the non-musical, and objectivity with subjectivity. + Review here Second Stumbled across Peter Sinfield's site after a little searching today, and it has a very interesting insight into the lyrics and the concept of the album. If you're a self-proclaimed lyrics man, like me, and you like the lyrics to Court, then it's worth checking out this section: Peter Sinfield's comments on the lyrics to Court So, now that's posted: any thoughts on the review, the album in question, Crimson in general, any of the band members, and Court's influence? |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 17 2008 at 16:22 | |
Review 16, Sinister, John Wetton,
2001 I don't know John Wetton's solo career outside this album, but I'm somewhat familiar with early Asia, and can say with certainty that most of this album is very much in the same vein. Unfortunately, it's not generally at the same quality. Nonetheless, there are a couple of real peaks at the beautiful Fripp-Wetton-Macdonald instrumental, E-SCAPE, and the opening Heart Of Darkness is a really great rocker. The rest of the album is both short and pretty unthreatening, though Wetton's compositional skill is present throughout, the end result is quite miserable. The opener begins with promising moody keyboards, and a couple of piano and twanging bass notes lead into great uplifting rock song with dark moments. Wetton's voice, still excellent, begins the song proper. Some enjoyable guitar here, and the bass part isn't bad. A fantastic example of eighties-sounding rock. Stunning.
No Ordinary Miracle is a ballad. Cheesy vocals, lyrics, and even an incredibly tacky thunderbolt effect. An essentially decent main theme, and, again, some fairly nice additions on minor instruments. Unfortunately, it says nothing new, and I don't like the use of drums to drive a ballad so bluntly. Not my thing. Where Do We Go From Here is relatively typical of the rock pieces of the album. Thumping bass, fairly generic, but acceptable drumming. Not particularly stunning chorus, but the verses are good. I feel the brief instrumental moments here could have been properly developed, but weren't, and a jarring return to the chorus after a five-second guitar-keyboard interplay was not the greatest idea. Blunt and unexceptional. E-SCAPE features Fripp and McDonald (both of King Crimson) on sound-scape guitar and alto-flute respectively, while Wetton takes keyboard duties. It's a very stunning, mesmerising and beautiful soft instrumental, with McDonald's absolutely gorgeous ethereal flute particularly standing out, and some exceptional interplay from the musicians. Worthy of a Crimson album, though entirely uncharacteristic of Sinister. The biting Another Twist Of The Knife, while essentially a three-chord AOR piece, is comfortably the third-best thing on the album. Wetton's energy on the vocals is winning, and the song really does manage to rock properly, even the drums working well here. The chorus isn't quite up to the standard of the verses, but's still decent. Good fun. Perhaps brought down by the big block of vocals and lyrics on the 'Go on... cut me... til I bleed' section. Great guitar solo here, but I say that about just about any guitar solo, for some reason. Silently. Ugh. Generic piano. Cheesy ballad-styled vocals. Lame drumming. Pathetically bad chorus, appalling lyrics. No merits to consider, except the middle instrumental section, which works pretty well, until the vocals come back again. Some good ideas, but a crap song. Before Your Eyes is the least appalling of the album's ballad-styled things. Quite nice, quiet, not mindlessly thumping on the drums, slightly improved lyrics, and Wetton's vocals seem more individual. The flute is nicely included. The keyboards hold it up quite well. The choir/harmony thing was a little poor, though. Overall, an acceptable effort. Second Best, despite a promising
energetic start, takes the whole generic AOR-aspect that plagues the
album to an entirely new level. Appalling chorus. More of that
disastrously plain drumming. The lyrics are dubious, the vocals vary
from great on the verses to dreadful on the chorus. Another good
guitar solo on this one, but again it goes back to the chorus where
it didn't need to. The fade is welcome. Again, some good ideas, but
overall an un-focused product.
If you don't like Asia's debut (probably the best known comparison, though not entirely fair), avoid it like the plague, if you do, perhaps to be considered for the stunning opener and a couple of the other better tracks, but still not great. Wetton's bass is still pretty good, but you're just not going to find the stunning bass work from his spell with Crimson on this album, and it's often overshadowed by the styles of the songs. His vocals are very divisive, still of the almost-shouted kind, and not for everyone. Clocking in at just 38 or so minutes, much of which is pretty poor material, probably not a great value-for-money buy. An effort with its moments, but ultimately unsatisfying. Rating: Two Stars Favourite Track: E-SCAPE ---- Also, great album cover. Not much hope for discussion, though. I should dash off a Court review next, and then maybe Very 'Eavy, Very 'Umble (because I want an excuse to listen to Gypsy compulsively). Many thanks to the admin/review moderator team for dealing with my old Court review. Is all of Wetton's solo career this dubious? The Wetton-Downes collaborations any better? Edit: How's that for obscure . Only 6 ratings for the album. Edited by TGM: Orb - March 17 2008 at 16:22 |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 09:21 | |
Review 15, Wind & Wuthering, Genesis, 1977
One For The Vine is probably second or third in my long list of favourite Genesis songs, with absolutely great vocals, very strong lyrics from Banks, which work perfectly over the music. Various keyboards are used in a sophisticated manner, and the talents of all four musicians are well-displayed. Superb instrumental sections, and changes in tempo, and a perfect example of musically realising a concept without letting the concept at all overshadow the music or vice-versa. Your Own Special Way is difficult to like. I can tolerate and quite happily nod along to the verses. Unfortunately, the opening is utterly terrible, repetitive, with whiny keyboards that I'm not too fond of. The song proper isn't too bad, a decent pop-tinged song, with some of the fairly characteristic Collins drumming that made IKWIL good. The vocals are a little non-distinctive here, but still acceptable, as are the lyrics. The guitar, the harmonies, and the instrumental section are small highlights within the song. If only they'd managed to provide a good opening for it. Wot Gorilla? is the first of the album's instrumentals, with a tingly percussion opening, suitably silly synths and guitar reminiscent of Hackett's solo album playing along nicely. A real throwback to the instrumentals from The Lamb, listenable, but nothing special. All In A Mouse's night is another good longer song, though I found it utterly intolerable at first. Compulsive drumming here, great thudding bass, very good vocals coupled with tolerable (if acquired) lyrics. Some distinctive shifts in style, and the tiny, yet vital, electric additions from Hackett and Banks on piano (where the tune is held up by synths) absolutely make the song what it is. An excellent ending, and certainly well worth hearing. Blood On The Rooftops opens with a memorable acoustic solo from Hackett. The verses are basically a showcase for his acoustic playing, and with small contributions from the rest of the band, while a great bass part from Rutherford particularly shines in the choruses. Collins vocals are again good, and lyrically the nostalgia and very English sarcasm are great. Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers is largely made by the echoing guitars and piano, with a synth over the top that I find somewhat annoying to listen to, and usually try to ignore. It's mostly acting as a lead-up to In That Quiet Earth, which has a great guitar solo, a good bass line, and some interesting drumming. It moves on to a superb, very mobile, slightly heavier section with Collins really standing out. I don't know quite why, but it does feel a little awkward and repetitive, and the lead-up to Afterglow feels a little forced. Afterglow is a very simple song, with minimalistic guitars and a slow drum-beat augmented by a nice mellotron. Typically, not the sort of thing I'd like, but the gradual build-up does work very well, and the emotional vocals, while still not Gabriel, are great. A very good conclusion to the album. All in all, the album is one that strikes me as a little mixed, and brought down a bit by the instrumentals and Your Own Special Way's opening, but the longer tracks are absolutely stunning. Generally recommended. Rating: Four Stars Favourite Track: One For The Vine ------And that signals my Genesis collection running out. Probably going to alternate between gushing over all the Crimson ()releases up to and including Discipline and reviewing less partially other odds and ends next. I am *very* happy with all of my purchases, so I'm posting my early impressions here, Tubular Bells (vol. 1) - Mike Oldfield A good instrumental album, and I love the random nasal choir thing on the second side. First impression: strong 3 Stars, might be 4. Script For A Jester's Tear - Marillion Absolutely great album, with particular highlights in Chelsea Monday and Script... itself. I love all the tracks, although Garden Party and Web aren't at the same standard as the rest. Great guitar and vocals, but I found the drumming a little weak. First impression: Strong 4 Stars. Valentyne Suite - Colosseum Wow. I've had Daughter Of Time for a while, but this was something completely different. Stunning blues/jazz rock, amazing bass and bluesy guitar, and the great Jon Hiseman on drums. I'm particularly fond of Butty's Blues and The Grass Is Always Greener (Valentyne Suite, Third Theme). First Impression: 5 Stars. Great stuff. The Inner Mounting Flame - The Mahavishnu Orchestra And I was impressed by Birds Of Fire... A fusion classic, and worthy of that title. I really enjoy the acoustic A Lotus On Irish Streams, and the rest of the album is very, very dense musicianship. No weakness. First Impression: 5 Stars, could be 4. Permanent Waves - Rush I wasn't so happy with this one on the first two or three listens, but it really did click for me yesterday. Jacob's Ladder, Natural Science and The Spirit of Radio are great, and even if I preferred Lee's voice on AFTK and 2112, his bass here is superb. First Impression: 4 Stars Moving Pictures - Rush Some great songs (Tom Sawyer and Witch Hunt in particular). I might be happier without Red Barchetta and its irritating lyrics, but still a good album. Perhaps it'll click for me with a few more listens. First Impression: 3 Stars, could be four. Les Porches - Maneige Have to admit, I'd already heard this quite a lot, but the impression from the proper-quality release was so much better. Absolutely stunning classically-inspired piano, a very memorable title track, and the superb Les Aventures.... Only really weakened a little by Chromo. Impression: Five Stars. Moonmadness - Camel I was more satisfied by this one than by Mirage or The Snow Goose, and I have to admit that Ward's drumming seems to have come on a lot, though Ferguson's bass still feels somewhat like a prop. I'm very fond of Song Within A Song, and the rest of the album is good. First Impression: Four Stars, could be a strong three. Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator Hm. I'm very glad I went for the superb Godbluff before this one, even if it's still very strong. I felt that Jackson really rocked more on Godbluff, and lyrically Godbluff felt more connected. Nonetheless, great album, and Guy Evans really does shine on it. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers is really my sort of utter chaos, and the other two are very good. First Impression: Four Stars. |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 13 2008 at 12:50 | |
I apologise for my earlier lies
The recent arrival of Tubular Bells (vol. 1) - Mike Oldfield Script For A Jester's Tear - Marillion Valentyne Suite - Colosseum The Inner Mounting Flame - The Mahavishnu Orchestra Moving Pictures - Rush Les Porches - Maneige Permanent Waves - Rush Moonmadness - Camel Pawn Hearts - Van Der Graaf Generator and expected arrival of Perdition City - Ulver has removed the time I'd need to take on this intermediate review, and the WInd And Wuthering one will wait for the weekend. |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:16 | |
Review 14, A Trick Of The Tail, Genesis, 1976 After the departure of Peter Gabriel, Genesis' sound really does take a drastic change. For some people this is a welcome development, but not so much for me. Firstly, Collins takes over lead
vocals. I think the issue here is not his voice, which I, personally,
enjoy on all the previous albums, and on the following Wind &
Wuthering, but that he's not that confident with it, and doesn't
really make the songs his own on this album. Occasionally he adopts
weird accents on Dance On A Volcano, Mad Man Moon and Robbery..., but
it just doesn't pay off for him as much as it did for Gabriel. The
lyrics are still very good, but the relatively non-distinctive nature
of Collins' vocals here do obscure that a little, so they originally
felt like repeated pop choruses, even when they aren't. Anyway Dance On A Volcano was a little difficult for me to get into, but I now do enjoy it. Great opening, mainly guitar-based, good drumming, a great quirky bass part from Rutherford, and overall a very enjoyable track. Entangled is an odd creature. On the verses and the instrumental second half, good, enjoyable acoustic guitars from Hackett and Rutherford, here, and banks provides excellent synth and mellotron (I think) parts. Collins provides a nice vocal, and the song suits him. However, the choruses really don't work for me. I've never been a great fan of playing acoustics with too many chords, and this isn't an exception. The vocal harmonies aren't very distinctive, either. A very good song, I admit, but not one that grips me. 'Like father, like son' A good, but
simple drum-and-bass rhythm, with matching guitar, opens Squonk.
Great vocals for decent lyrics, here, somewhat more assertive than on
the rest of the album, I feel, though I wish they were a little more
prominent in the mix. I love the drums on this one. One of my
favourites from the album. Robbery Assault And Battery is yet another weird case, where nothing manages to offend, and I love the electric guitar and bass, and the drumming's quite catchy. The cockney vocals are amusing enough, and there are two great short instrumental sections near the end and at the end, respectively. I think it's the silly keyboards here that put me off the song as a whole. A good song, and I think I should like it more than I do. Throughout Ripples, much like
Entangled, I love the piano-and-guitar verses, with superb vocals,
but I don't enjoy the chorus and its harmonies much. Good lyrics,
great piano, and a decent instrumental section towards the end. I
prefer my soft songs staying relatively soft throughout, rather than
doing what these two do, which is start with a beautiful melody and
then go to a generic chorus at a slightly louder volume. Los Endos is essentially a medley of tunes from the rest of the album, together with the legendary 'There's an angel standing in the sun!' of Supper's Ready, and a couple of weird shimmerings and strange percussion things indicative of what the band would do with the instrumentals on the next album. This, however, is much more catchy and enjoyable than them, with the rhythm section standing out a little more than Banks and Hackett. In the end, not my favourite, but a
solid four star effort. Perhaps not recommended to those who prefer
the harder rock aspects of Gabriel-era Genesis, or those who
healthily dislike acoustics. If, like me, you fall partly into the
first of those two categories, it may need a fair few spins to grow
on you. Rating: Four Stars, though personally a
borderline three ---- Had the time and inclination to dash this one off today, and I'm a little happier about it than about my previous couple of reviews. As usual, on the lookout for opinions about the album. Might get another review about a non-Genesis album up next, since I'm not in the mood to listen to W&W now. Edit: Trick is an odd album for me, because while I can say I enjoy it, but could happily live without it, I think every prog-man (or even non-prog-man) should at least try it out. Edited by TGM: Orb - March 09 2008 at 13:20 |
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micky
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 20:48 | |
meh... I think M@X was pissed off at me for busting his balls about that damn jingle for the site. Didn't make it to the Lamb tonight... but I will tomorrow... late night is not the best time for me to listen to Genesis anyway Sounds like a good plan there...I had to learn reviewing on the fly so to speak.. got promoted.. yet never reviewed an album.. so I was told to start reviewing My first reviwes (not an invitation to read hahhaha) were god-frickin awful.. and still even now don't think they are particularly good.. I just plug away at them and try to improve as I go. What makes it easier is I don't review the top albums.. so I can toil away in relative obscurity. Think I have only reviewed one of the top 100 albums or some crap like that. Maybe more than that.. but not many more. |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 08 2008 at 19:41 | |
Many thanks for the kind words, though I don't know why M@X would make such a silly mistake I'm sharpening my teeth on the obvious stuff, since it makes up most of my currently small collection, and I want to get better at analysing/understanding the albums and my personal opinions before I go on to those more obscure things that actually need the reviews and ratings, so I can give them the love they deserve. Might get in a Colosseum or Maneige review sometime soon, though, even if they're lesser-known rather than obscure. |
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micky
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Posted: March 08 2008 at 16:43 | |
you know.. this album NEVER ...ever took to me ... and I really have tried... but this is an album I gave up upon.. probably haven't listened to it in at least 2 years. I'll give it another spin tonight after I toss off some reviews of my own. Now that M@X has let me do my voodoo again... and let me log on... have some reviews to catch up with.
you do write a great album review though... looking forward to seeing you tackle more obscure stuff as well. |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 08 2008 at 13:56 | |
Review 13, The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Genesis, 1974 Because four great albums weren't enough for Genesis. A very interesting change in format took place between Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb. There are no really extended songs, although The Colony Of Slippermen and In The Cage are reasonably long, some of the songs move into psychedelic and ambient territory and the album has a much more American feel than anything Genesis had previously done; lastly, the excellent lyrics are always related to the concept, and are often narrative. On the minus side of these developments, I feel that fades are overused, when they aren't generally needed or feel out of place. Overall, an album that is on a par with other Gabriel-era efforts, and certainly not to be missed. Beginning with a supple piano solo, The
Lamb Lies Down On Broadway is very much representative of the album
as a whole. Brief, with compelling drums and a great lead bass part,
Hackett sounding suspiciously like a piano (!), clever, small
background additions to give it more depth, diverse sections, musical
foreshadowing of the later Carpet Crawlers. Great, biting lyrics and
vocals from Gabriel, and an acceptable fade. Cuckoo Cocoon is decent, but doesn't
really stand out. Does what it was intended to do, lyrically and
psychologically, and prepares neatly for the driving In The Cage, but
doesn't really go beyond it. Also has a weird slightly delayed guitar
sound that doesn't work that greatly here. Not bad, but
unexceptional. The Grand Parade of Lifeless packaging is brief, enjoyable, random, mostly mindless music, with a heavy focus on the chaotic distortion by Brian Eno. Acceptable, but not my thing. Back In New York City is essentially a relatively normal song. Fairly weak, but probably concept-crucial lyrics, near-punk vocals from Gabriel, and a generally amusing main theme, though it gets a bit repetitive after a while. The chorus is great, catchy and quirky, much like Jethro Tull's Locomotive Breath: embarrassing to sing along to, but I can't help it. Hairless Heart is a beautiful quiet instrumental, led by Hackett (acoustic + electric guitar) and Banks (mainly synths), with Collins providing an appropriate drum beat. Counting Out Time is, in my opinion, the funniest (though not the best) of the Genesis humourous songs, with a pretty amusing concept and lyrics, whimsical music (held up by a guitar riff and bass) and a hilarious guitar solo. Gabriel's tentative, questioning vocal fits the song perfectly, and the harmonies/fade on 'Without you mankind handkinds through the bluuues...' are delightful every time. Carpet Crawlers simply doesn't interest
me at all. I like the piano tune, I like the music, I like the
vocals, but I don't like the song. I don't know why, but it leaves me
absolutely cold every time, and occasionally even annoys me. Still,
one of the widely liked songs on the album, and perhaps would be the
highlight for any ATOTT fan. The second disc opens with a nice, somewhat explosive pop-rock tune, Lily-white Lillith. Great harmonies, powerful music, a bit of Hackettry, good lush keyboards from Banks, great vocals, and a good echo of the Broadway Melody of 1974 on the end. The Waiting Room is certainly psych rock, though other tracks on the album and the way the album's constructed as a whole have a psych-y feel to them. A gradual progression with tingling, orderless percussion, screeches on the guitar and synths, with several themes being dabbled with and developed or dropped, explosions and an emergence into a full band piece, which continues to develop and shine. Complete and utter chaos, and something that took me a while to acquire in context, but completely my thing. Anyway is my highlight for the second CD, with a gorgeous piano part courtesy of Banks, Gabriel's searing, echoey vocals, strong, original lyrics, relating to delirium and death. The sprawling piano on the instrumental break in the middle leads to a truly stellar guitar solo from Hackett and then returns to the main theme with added synths (or possibly guitar that sounds like synths), more vocals, percussion and some organ. The Supernatural Anaesthetist is essentially Hackett on the loose, with Banks and Rutherford shadowing him. There are a few vocals on the start. An interesting combination of ways to play guitar, and the narrative (see the CD booklet) comment on the events taking place is absolutely priceless. The Lamia is a soft multi-part song,
showcasing Gabriel's vocals and lyrics (beautiful and at the same
time advancing the story) and Banks' piano and keys, though Collins
and Hackett are both very important in places, and the drumming
stands out. A real grower, and a standout track on an excellent
album. The Slippermen begins with a minute and a half of seemingly random psychedelic noodling, and then dims to prepare for the most surprisingly explosive 'bubbity-bub' in the history of rock, followed by an extensive, silly song with great solos on keyboards, some well-concealed additions on guitar, great, eclectic drumming and addictive riffs. Superb vocals from Gabriel, with lots of small harmonies, and whimsical lyrics. A great fade here, and absolutely seamless music. Really good fun to listen to, and the weirdness hasn't grown old on me yet. Ravine is a somewhat darker continuation of the Silent Sorrow... idea, with the same riff, but very different in its sound. The Light Dies Down On Broadway is an echo of the album's opener, and absolutely great, with a compelling drum performance. More great vocals, and very strong lyrics (IIRC, from Collins, here). Good organ from Banks, and an enjoyable bass part. The somewhat dancy Riding the Scree is an oddity, with a great rhythm section (Collins sounds like he's crossed himself with Mike Giles), blaring soloist keyboards, and a nice vocal. Great stuff. In The Rapids is opened by Hackett, who's a strong presence throughout, together with Gabriel. Rutherford twangs on the bass once or twice, while Collins adds his own style. Essentially an atmospheric lead-up to It. 'It' has very catchy music, and great vocals, with lyrics that only really make any sense in context, but are still enjoyable. Fairly memorable performances from everyone involved, and the synth screech moving to the guitar riff is great. A good closer to the album. All in all, a very strong four star
effort, though it may take more time to get the same position of
pride as other Genesis albums. Completely atypical of Genesis at the
time, but nonetheless highly enjoyable, with a great mixture of
styles. Perhaps too great a mixture of styles for the band's own
good, since it seems unlikely that everything on the album will
appeal to the average listener. Two discs of great material, and
worth getting even at the price. Rating: Four stars ---- *coughcoughcoughsomuchbetterthanTheWallcough* Oddly, coming back to Genesis, it seems that I've become fairly Collins-centric in my way of thinking, whereas previously I was a through-and-through Hackett fanboy. Really, I'd never previously thought of how important the guy's drumming on Selling England... and The Lamb is to those albums, though I've always liked it. I'm currently thinking out a self-indulgent essay about how rediscovering a couple of things with a more 'analytical' mind recently (most notably Court and early Genesis) has been, so I might post that here if I like it (not so likely). Well, that's the Gabriel era done. Anyone here have particularly extreme views on The Lamb? Also, feel free to lay into my reviews, I'm beginning to get lonely in here Edit: Interesting, apparently I actually submitted that embarrassing review I wrote earlier about The Lamb, after far too few listens and with absolutely no real analysis, which goes mostly against what I said in my new and shiny review. Ah well, same rating, so I'll wait until I want to replace a few more at the same time to get it deleted. Um. The album was a little acquired for me. Edit edit: My god, did I really call 'Lilywhite Lillith' fairly heavy? What the Hell was I on? Edit edit edit: At least I got in a cheap shot at The Wall in the old review. Edited by TGM: Orb - March 08 2008 at 14:08 |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:22 | |
It's never too late to comment on Asia . I can understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure that they'd have reached the same heights in a different style if they'd gone in a more progressive and more subtle direction. I just don't know, though. I admit I might have over-hyped it a little in my review, while foaming at the mouth from seeing it rated lower than Alpha, but I still love it. One of those albums, like Caress of Steel or Trespass, where I can see the flaws, but most of them don't annoy me that much. Also, relating to that: I got the later Asia album Arena a week ago, after being thoroughly disappointed by Alpha. I was quite impressed by it, and it's got some great 'crossover'y moments on The Day Before The War and U Bring Me Down, as well as some enjoyable relatively plain eighties-sounding rock with an individual atmosphere, and good instrumentals. Admittedly Heaven and Never have some fairly weak moments, and I miss Palmer, but an encouraging 3 star album, imo. Also related, new album coming out soon from the original line-up, soon. Could be interesting, and some of the samples sounded good. |
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MoreBarlow
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 00:44 | |
Is it too late to comment on Asia? Truth be told, shallow reactionary reviews aside, I can say from seeing them live in 06 that things weren't as impressive as could possibly be-- from a simple very-high-quality prog standpoint. Great energetic show, and great show by most standards, of course. And, too, when Palmer and Howe got their free moments, let's say I've yet to experience anything like it! (except for perhaps Tarkus for the first time on cd) With that said though, the lack of subtlety was a major turnoff.
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: March 02 2008 at 15:39 | |
Review 12, Selling England By The Pound, Genesis, 1973 If there's an album that represents
England, this is it. Nostalgia, sarcasm and biting dark atmosphere
stand side by side, augmented by (in my opinion) some of the most
impressive Genesis lyrics. An absolutely essential and flawless
album, and one you should instantly go out and buy if you don't
already own it. The Banks-penned Firth of Fifth is stunning. Great piano solo, great guitar part, great use of various keyboards, good bass part, great vocals, good lyrics and absolutely stunning, original drumming from Collins. At times powerful, at times whimsical, at times moving, very fluid and altogether brilliant. Ten minutes of sheer brilliance. I actually love More Fool Me, a melancholy ballad sung mainly by Collins (with one or two harmonies) with emotional acoustic guitar and lyrics which suit it perfectly. Perhaps not for every prog-man, but I prefer it to anything on A Trick Of The Tail. The Battle For Epping Forest is a bright and cheerful account of a gang war, with occasionally amusing and generally tolerable lyrics and Gabriel really letting himself go with the vocals. A mixture of inane cockney accents, which you either will or won't like, musical sarcasm and the general excellence present on the rest of the album. I've grown to enjoy it, though I was dubious at first, but I suspect that this is one of those songs where the experience is different for each listener. After The Ordeal is, in my opinion, one of the finest brief instrumentals ever, beginning with the best guitar-and-piano interplay I've yet heard and a few taps on the tambourine. As it moves to a slightly more polyphonic track, with a great drum entrance by Collins and organ, flute and synths all making some sort of appearance, there's a gorgeous guitar solo. The Cinema Show is basically an exercise in going from soft to equally soft but somehow louder to softer so subtly that the listener barely notices. The Gabriel-Collins duet on vocals is great, and there's trademark soloing by Hackett and Banks, as well as great drumming. One of those songs which is mostly indescribable if you haven't already heard it. To round off the album, we have possibly one of the best conclusions in the history of prog rock. The brief Aisle Of Plenty is essentially a reprise of part of Dancing With The Moonlit Knight with a brilliant fade. The perfect conclusion to a perfect album. Rating: Five Stars Favourite Track: After The Ordeal ---------------------Not sure I've quite expressed myself as I meant to, and a shorter review than the previous two. Really, I just didn't know quite what to add to the long list of reviews that were already there, but I didn't want to spend more time waiting on an album that I was 100% certain on the rating of and why I liked it that much. Plus, I wanted to get it back above TAAB :p Nonetheless, I'm looking forwards to reviewing The Lamb, since it'll be nice and easy by comparison. Edit: Almost forgot Week whatever, Albums reviewed: Foxtrot - Genesis (4 stars), Selling England By The Pound - Genesis (5 Stars) Album of the Week - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - Genesis I've finally managed to 'get' the more psychy instrumental pieces. Song of the Week - Down The Dolce Vita - Peter Gabriel Completely addictive. Amazing song. I'm listening to it compulsively at the moment. Random Fact, because I can, - I only enjoy Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb outside of the context of The Wall. Edited by TGM: Orb - March 02 2008 at 16:06 |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: February 28 2008 at 18:37 | |
In the absence of a SEBTP review today, because I'm trying to make sure I express it *just* right, I'm going to mention a few samples I've been listening through while waiting for my next load of CDs to finally turn up. Unfortunately, this means that I compulsively need to buy a few more albums as soon as my new ones arrive.
Five tracks I've particularly enjoyed: Toccata (Live from Welcome Back My Friends...) - ELP Here I have to admit that I've overlooked live albums, generally. Listening to this and a live In The Cage version has enlightened me. The album's on my next shopping list. Stratosfear - Tangerine Dream Here Heavily synthesised music usually isn't my thing, but I found this track in particular very compelling. Arcturus Here Usually the big turn-off of prog metal for me is the random growling seemingly endemic of the genre. I randomly went over to the extreme prog metal genre, and clicked on a random album from the top 20. A pleasant surprise, and perhaps a couple of masterpiece songs there, though I'd need to listen more to make a final judgement. Peaches En Regalia - Frank Zappa Here I admit I've previously just looked at Zappa's discography and thought 'what the Hell?!', and sort of classed him in my mind as a niche artist for a few rabid fans. I'm very happy to be proved wrong here. Great jazz-rock. Album on shopping list. Space Shanties - Khan Here Wow. Just wow. Blame Chameleon's excellent 'Beyond The Land Of Grey And Pink' article for this one. Edited by TGM: Orb - February 28 2008 at 18:38 |
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