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Atavachron 
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 Posted: March 26 2008 at 15:21 |
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Dance music? Funny, because in many ways it was one of their first true NON-dance tunes
the Beatles were a progressive band till the day they broke up.. the entire catalog, if viewed as a whole, is an astounding and constantly forward-moving display of progression
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The T
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 15:14 |
 BaldJean wrote:
I have always said that it was "Revolver" and not "In the Court of the Crimson King" which started prog. lots of gems on this album, "Tomorrow Never Knows" being one of them
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From what I've heard in rock music (there may be oscure things I haven't), I agree 100%.
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Rank1
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 10:04 |
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The Beatles had a innate ability of being pop and experimental at the same time. You have elements of avant. rock, pop, Indian, and musique concrete. What comes out is rhythmic psychedelic rock. The song might be three minutes long so what many of the tracks on Pipers of the Gates of Dawn are shorter than Strawberry Fields Forever. Tomorrow Never Knows was also influential modern dance artists like The Chemical Brothers. Also the Beatles use innovative concepts as backward guitar solos, ADT, vocals through a leslie speaker, backward samples or tape loops and tamboura drones.
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 16:52 |
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I have always said that it was "Revolver" and not "In the Court of the Crimson King" which started prog. lots of gems on this album, "Tomorrow Never Knows" being one of them
Edited by BaldJean - March 25 2008 at 17:01
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 A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 15:31 |
laplace wrote:
it's prog to me, too. original, uses studio technology to improve the music rather than being carried away by it and not even much to do with traditional song structure... it fits my definition of prog more closely than the music of any band with a name that rhymes with "pavilion" |
 ... as much as I love the pavillion-rhyming band, especially its sea-creature era, I have to agree. The Beatles' work was so groundbreaking. And influential. The other band, while superb, was on the receiving end of the influence transaction...
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 15:21 |
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it's prog to me, too. original, uses studio technology to improve the music rather than being carried away by it and not even much to do with traditional song structure... it fits my definition of prog more closely than the music of any band with a name that rhymes with "pavilion"
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 15:15 |
Roskisdyykkari wrote:
Psychedelic? Yes.
Groundbreaking? Definitely.
Progressive? NO!
One of my favorite songs also, but the song is basically just hitting one chord and weird tape effects. I wouldn't call it progressive.
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I don't agree with the NO! If we define progressive as in "in the style of progressive rock giants like Yes, Genesis, etc", well, it's quite impossible as The Beatles' Revolver was released in 1966. Also, it's not symphonic or anything like that. But there's no question that it's groundbreaking, it was extremely important for rock, and if we just go for the meaning of the word , it IS progressive.
Actually, it's the perfect example of pure "Proto-prog". 
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Roskisdyykkari
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Posted: February 16 2008 at 12:03 |
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Psychedelic? Yes.
Groundbreaking? Definitely.
Progressive? NO!
One of my favorite songs also, but the song is basically just hitting one chord and weird tape effects. I wouldn't call it progressive.
Happiness Is A Warm Gun is definitely more proggier. It's only about 2 minutes long, but the song keeps progressing all the time and there are so many different sections! Not to mention the use of unusual time signatures and even polyrhythms.
A Day in the Life is also a truly progressive song by the Beatles. As well as I want you (She's so heavy).
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And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away
in the tidal destruction the moral melee.
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Posted: February 16 2008 at 11:58 |
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Nothing left to say!
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"We've got to get in to get out"
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 21:45 |
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Absolutely. The beatles may not have been full on prog, but they definitly did prog songs. "Tomorrow Never Knows" could be the best example. Also, take a good look at "Happiness is a Warm Gun."
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 16:33 |
p0mt3 wrote:
It is absolutely progressive. No one had ever done that type of stuff before. You hear the stories of how the many, many tape loops were held on the end of pencils, stretched around the room in order for the different layers to be properly mixed in. If it hadn't been for innovative song ideas like this, we wouldn't have the music we do today. Truly amazing stuff, when you think about it. |
damn skippy... 
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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JLocke
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 14:41 |
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It is absolutely progressive. No one had ever done that type of stuff before. You hear the stories of how the many, many tape loops were held on the end of pencils, stretched around the room in order for the different layers to be properly mixed in. If it hadn't been for innovative song ideas like this, we wouldn't have the music we do today. Truly amazing stuff, when you think about it.
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MHDTV
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 12:57 |
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It's considered one of the first Psychedelic songs.
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Freak yo' swerve
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ANDREWM
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Posted: February 15 2008 at 10:29 |
What is your opinon of this tune that seems more related to modern dance music than prog to me?
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The Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows Progressive?
