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    Posted: February 01 2008 at 15:57
Well I was wandering around which song has the most progressive elements and starting to check out Tales From Topographic Ocean or Foxtrot or Echoes or Shine on You Crazy Diamond any of Gentle Giant??
Well i'm hoping anyone to tell your opinion...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 17:10
I think it's very hard to rate. So many bands can be described as "progressive", so really I can't answer this question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 17:23
Don't get too caught up in the whole concept of "progginess", it kills the fun in listening to music, because you always end up thinking "hmm, is this prog enough?".
But to answer your question, there are many ways to be progressive. Some will say Magma because Vander invented a language, some will say Tales from topographiv oceans because it has long songs, some will say Close to the edge because it is the quintessential prog epic, some will say ELP because they mixed classical with rock, some will say King Crimson, because they are the most experimental, some will say Gentle Giant because they are totally unique in concept and in music, some will say Dream Theater sucks because they are tired of endless Petrucci polls, some will say Arctic Monkeys because they haven't got a clue what they're talking about, and some will say "hello, look at me, i am a lamppost!" because they've taken too many of the doctor's pills, but I will say the Velvet Underground, because if not, no one will.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 20:18
I've no idea. Going by the standard "prog" clichés, perhaps it's Lizard? It's a very early epic with the title split into movements, has mellotron and jazz semi-improv, is themed, etc. =)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 21:03
This is kind of like the question, "How Long Is A Piece Of String?"
 
The question to find the "most progressive song ever" is just about impossible to answer. Any result would be based on subjectivity because there is no way to measure such a concept.
 
Like Evans aluded to, don't get caught up in pigeon-holing the music by the amount of progressiveness or what ever; simply get into the music and if you enjoy it and talks to your soul, well and good ... and if you don't, don't play it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 09:58
Wow gentle giant songs own in that field...realy...the most proggy band !And some King Crimson too, although they do it a kind of classical non-keybordish way ,that was reveling in most of the classical rock bands from that time.But if you wanna go jazzy ,go King Crimson.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:31
It's probably easier to answer the question "which of the famous Prog pieces are not the most progressive song ever, and why not?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 17:21
I can post on this board? Excellent. Supper's Ready is hard to confuse with any genre but Prog... Perhaps Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth- which makes no effort to restrain its progressiveness, for good or bad.Echoes by Pink Floyd is really prog-brand and I would always put a word in for Dogs from Animals- my favorite track of all time , which features all the same "progressions" or changes as the song goes along, absence of any pop stuff like refrain, heavy instrumentation, pained, transcendent lyrics.... I think you can have a very bad prog style song but progressive music assumes good, breakthrough music. In the same way you can say, well this track really typifies the style of classic rock, but it sucks, and isn't really "classic" classic rock at all. So this is why I mention Journey to the Center of the Earth, which really has all the features of prog very easily  picked out even though many Prog fans would rather listen to Straight Rock.... Sorry if this post makes little sense, one must experiment!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 17:34
Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

I can post on this board? Excellent. Supper's Ready is hard to confuse with any genre but Prog... Perhaps Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth- which makes no effort to restrain its progressiveness, for good or bad.Echoes by Pink Floyd is really prog-brand and I would always put a word in for Dogs from Animals- my favorite track of all time , which features all the same "progressions" or changes as the song goes along, absence of any pop stuff like refrain, heavy instrumentation, pained, transcendent lyrics.... I think you can have a very bad prog style song but progressive music assumes good, breakthrough music. In the same way you can say, well this track really typifies the style of classic rock, but it sucks, and isn't really "classic" classic rock at all. So this is why I mention Journey to the Center of the Earth, which really has all the features of prog very easily  picked out even though many Prog fans would rather listen to Straight Rock.... Sorry if this post makes little sense, one must experiment!
It's not that it doesn't make sense, it's just hard to read because you didn't break it up into paragraphs.

I realise the great irony in me telling you this after posting a really painful read earlier in the thread myself, but i am Clint Eastwood, so i do what i want.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 18:03
Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

Don't get too caught up in the whole concept of "progginess", it kills the fun in listening to music, because you always end up thinking "hmm, is this prog enough?".
But to answer your question, there are many ways to be progressive. Some will say Magma because Vander invented a language, some will say Tales from topographiv oceans because it has long songs, some will say Close to the edge because it is the quintessential prog epic, some will say ELP because they mixed classical with rock, some will say King Crimson, because they are the most experimental, some will say Gentle Giant because they are totally unique in concept and in music, some will say Dream Theater sucks because they are tired of endless Petrucci polls, some will say Arctic Monkeys because they haven't got a clue what they're talking about, and some will say "hello, look at me, i am a lamppost!" because they've taken too many of the doctor's pills, but I will say the Velvet Underground, because if not, no one will.
I think the thread should have ended here. LOL
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 20:29
mmm... Im a lamppost!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 20:48
I dunno, some really crazy songs like the 2 epics of Amputechture (mars volta), or Beyond the Twilight's "For the art of Making Love" or however that incredibly over-pretentious album is called.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2008 at 18:20
KKKK I don't only hear prog music I was just asking your suggestions this is for Evans and T rox and Drakk. I love hard rock some of modern rock even folk rock, some pop like INXS and Simply Red. Blues rock. Some jazz fusion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2008 at 18:26
I know what you mean, cacho, i asked the same thing when i joined this site, but there's no such thing as "most progressive", however if you want some seriously tough to digest music, try Unexpect. There are samples on the site.

Oh no, i lied, there aren't, but you can just to a search on youtube, there are lots of it there.


Edited by Evans - February 10 2008 at 18:28

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2008 at 18:29
just reviewed the album....


most progressive.. .this my friends...LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2008 at 13:46
Its hard to choose what is more progressive
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2008 at 14:05
No idea, but the songs on Topographic Oceans deserves a mention!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2008 at 14:12
Just to name a short one which symbolizes well the genre for me, even if it's short: "Knots" by Gentle Giant...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2008 at 15:03
Yes, listening to Knots by Gentle Giant, I have to agree. I can barely take it  it is so progressive! It is a very bold piece with all sorts of rarities and innovations that exemplify prog and distinguish it from its predecessors and rivals. This is the kind of thing that is impossible for a non-prog fan to listen to. .... Wait now.... oooh... The next song though is very cool for anyone,  yeah-yuh, great drums, guitar and... now sax! Great, sounds like Van Der Graf a bit. I should listen to Gentle Giant more often. Whats that chirping noise! BRILLIANT!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2008 at 16:07
Originally posted by Evans Evans wrote:

Don't get too caught up in the whole concept of "progginess", it kills the fun in listening to music, because you always end up thinking "hmm, is this prog enough?".
But to answer your question, there are many ways to be progressive. Some will say Magma because Vander invented a language, some will say Tales from topographiv oceans because it has long songs, some will say Close to the edge because it is the quintessential prog epic, some will say ELP because they mixed classical with rock, some will say King Crimson, because they are the most experimental, some will say Gentle Giant because they are totally unique in concept and in music, some will say Dream Theater sucks because they are tired of endless Petrucci polls, some will say Arctic Monkeys because they haven't got a clue what they're talking about, and some will say "hello, look at me, i am a lamppost!" because they've taken too many of the doctor's pills, but I will say the Velvet Underground, because if not, no one will.


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