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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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Well I was wandering around which song has the most progressive elements and starting to check out Tales From Topographic Ocean or Foxtrot or Echoes or Shine on You Crazy Diamond any of Gentle Giant??
Well i'm hoping anyone to tell your opinion... |
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cynthiasmallet ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 545 |
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I think it's very hard to rate. So many bands can be described as "progressive", so really I can't answer this question.
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Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat?
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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Don't get too caught up in the whole concept of "progginess", it kills the fun in listening to music, because you always end up thinking "hmm, is this prog enough?".
But to answer your question, there are many ways to be progressive. Some will say Magma because Vander invented a language, some will say Tales from topographiv oceans because it has long songs, some will say Close to the edge because it is the quintessential prog epic, some will say ELP because they mixed classical with rock, some will say King Crimson, because they are the most experimental, some will say Gentle Giant because they are totally unique in concept and in music, some will say Dream Theater sucks because they are tired of endless Petrucci polls, some will say Arctic Monkeys because they haven't got a clue what they're talking about, and some will say "hello, look at me, i am a lamppost!" because they've taken too many of the doctor's pills, but I will say the Velvet Underground, because if not, no one will. |
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laplace ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
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I've no idea. Going by the standard "prog" clichés, perhaps it's Lizard? It's a very early epic with the title split into movements, has mellotron and jazz semi-improv, is themed, etc. =)
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T.Rox ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 06 2004 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 9455 |
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This is kind of like the question, "How Long Is A Piece Of String?"
The question to find the "most progressive song ever" is just about impossible to answer. Any result would be based on subjectivity because there is no way to measure such a concept.
Like Evans aluded to, don't get caught up in pigeon-holing the music by the amount of progressiveness or what ever; simply get into the music and if you enjoy it and talks to your soul, well and good ... and if you don't, don't play it.
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"Without prog, life would be a mistake."
...with apologies to Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Real Paradox ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2008 Location: Lisbon Status: Offline Points: 174 |
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Wow gentle giant songs own in that field...realy...the most proggy band !And some King Crimson too, although they do it a kind of classical non-keybordish way ,that was reveling in most of the classical rock bands from that time.But if you wanna go jazzy ,go King Crimson.
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Philéas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
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It's probably easier to answer the question "which of the famous Prog pieces are not the most progressive song ever, and why not?"
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RoyFairbank ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
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I can post on this board? Excellent. Supper's Ready is hard to confuse with any genre but Prog... Perhaps Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth- which makes no effort to restrain its progressiveness, for good or bad.Echoes by Pink Floyd is really prog-brand and I would always put a word in for Dogs from Animals- my favorite track of all time , which features all the same "progressions" or changes as the song goes along, absence of any pop stuff like refrain, heavy instrumentation, pained, transcendent lyrics.... I think you can have a very bad prog style song but progressive music assumes good, breakthrough music. In the same way you can say, well this track really typifies the style of classic rock, but it sucks, and isn't really "classic" classic rock at all. So this is why I mention Journey to the Center of the Earth, which really has all the features of prog very easily picked out even though many Prog fans would rather listen to Straight Rock.... Sorry if this post makes little sense, one must experiment!
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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I realise the great irony in me telling you this after posting a really painful read earlier in the thread myself, but i am Clint Eastwood, so i do what i want. |
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Drakk ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 340 |
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I'm disappointed - neither of these players are avant-garde! Al di Meola. [/QUOTE] haha i know. but the poll itself is avant-garde [/QUOTE] |
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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mmm... Im a lamppost!
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Zitro ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 11 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1321 |
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I dunno, some really crazy songs like the 2 epics of Amputechture (mars volta), or Beyond the Twilight's "For the art of Making Love" or however that incredibly over-pretentious album is called.
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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KKKK I don't only hear prog music I was just asking your suggestions this is for Evans and T rox and Drakk. I love hard rock some of modern rock even folk rock, some pop like INXS and Simply Red. Blues rock. Some jazz fusion.
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Evans ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 15 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3004 |
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I know what you mean, cacho, i asked the same thing when i joined this site, but there's no such thing as "most progressive", however if you want some seriously tough to digest music, try Unexpect. There are samples on the site.
Oh no, i lied, there aren't, but you can just to a search on youtube, there are lots of it there. Edited by Evans - February 10 2008 at 18:28 |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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just reviewed the album....
most progressive.. .this my friends... ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oS1QltkP4M |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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rockthebox ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: September 21 2007 Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Its hard to choose what is more progressive
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Abstrakt ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
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No idea, but the songs on Topographic Oceans deserves a mention!
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Anaon ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2005 Location: Kobaïa Status: Offline Points: 849 |
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Just to name a short one which symbolizes well the genre for me, even if it's short: "Knots" by Gentle Giant...
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RoyFairbank ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 07 2008 Location: Somewhere Status: Offline Points: 1072 |
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Yes, listening to Knots by Gentle Giant, I have to agree. I can barely take it it is so progressive! It is a very bold piece with all sorts of rarities and innovations that exemplify prog and distinguish it from its predecessors and rivals. This is the kind of thing that is impossible for a non-prog fan to listen to. .... Wait now.... oooh... The next song though is very cool for anyone, yeah-yuh, great drums, guitar and... now sax! Great, sounds like Van Der Graf a bit. I should listen to Gentle Giant more often. Whats that chirping noise! BRILLIANT!
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Hirgwath ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 16 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 262 |
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Hear hear. |
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