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ClemofNazareth
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Topic: The next U.S. President (for non-US members only) Posted: January 12 2008 at 17:37 |
G.W. probably doesn't care, but considering about 99% of this country consists of people with ties to some other nation, I'm curious who the people of those countries think should be our next U.S. president.
It would also be nice to know why you chose the candidate you voted for. Edited January 22nd to remove Biden, Dodd, Tancredo and Thompson who have all now officially dropped out. Kucinich dropped out January 23rd. Giuliani announced he's dropping out and endorsing McCain January 29th. Edwards announced January 30th he is dropping out but will not immediately endorse another candidate. Mitt Romney announced February 7th that he is suspending his bid for the Republican nomination. Mike Huckabee dropped out March 4th. Edited by ClemofNazareth - June 07 2008 at 23:40 |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
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Atkingani
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
Posted: January 12 2008 at 17:51 |
Not living in the USA (my sister lives there in NJ, married with a yanqui ) and seen things from the Southern Cross perspective, I'll go with Obama... I feel something fresh in the air that will be good for the USA and also to the Western World.
Change or die, well, let's change, no?
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MikeEnRegalia
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21206 |
Posted: January 12 2008 at 18:07 |
It's the Democrats' turn.
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 10:56 |
It's good to see what seems to be a variety of credible candidates. It looks like the next president will command far more respect, whoever it is.
I'd be interested to hear how much our US memebrs feel this is a vote for the person, and how much the candidate's political allegiance and policies matter.
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Chris H
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 12:25 |
Not voting because I live in the States, but hasn't Chris Dodd dropped out?
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Beauty will save the world.
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Hirgwath
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 16 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 262 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 12:31 |
Yes: Dodd, Biden, and Tancredo are already out. Not that anyone cares.
In the interest of full disclosure, I did not vote in this poll, but will be voting in the general election (I turn 18 in September). Edited by Hirgwath - January 13 2008 at 12:32 |
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 16:34 |
You're right. I left Biden and Dodd on the list because they haven't officially endorsed anyone (that I'm aware of), and they are still accepting campaign funds. I missed the Tancredo annoncement but you're right on that one too IMHO -- who cares . |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
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Chris H
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 16:58 |
It's between Clinton and Obama for Democrat and Huckabee and Giuliani for Republican. Ron Paul might be the only person with an outside chance. But other than that, you're right, who cares? Now that Fred Thompson is off Law & Order he's a done deal anyways!
Edited by Zappa88 - January 13 2008 at 16:59 |
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Beauty will save the world.
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 17:15 |
For me the leading candidates' stated policies don't matter all that much in today's environment. Our past three presidents have done very little to follow up on most of their campaign promises anyway, and those who ran and lost and ended up in the Senate have been largely silent as well so I think you can't give much credence to specific proposals or promises. Much of what a president accomplishes ends up being about how well they can work with Congress anyway. I think this election is about making a definitive statement on what direction we want for our country. More of the same most likely means a continuing erosion of the middle class, an increased polarization of the country's citizenship between those who are progressive and socially-conscious, and those whose primary focus is on continuing to promote capitalism and strengthening our 'moral authority'. IMHO I think we should also consider our global standing, which has eroded more in the past seven years than at any time in our history (and which is why I asked the question in the first place). Electing someone who will continue to act unilaterally in world affairs and show open disdain for the opinions and priorities of other nations will only further damage the reputation of all Americans world-wide. On the upside states like mine that rely on tourism for much of their revenue will benefit since Americans will continue to forego foreign vacation travel for domestic since we will become even greater targets outside our own borders. So there's that at least.... |
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 13 2008 at 17:21 |
yes, well that's always the real underlying question.. in this election, because I believe Iraq has seriously damaged the Republicans, many will vote more with general policy in mind ..in other words, "get us the hell out of there and start a healing process that will only bring better spirits and a stimulated economy" as for which Dem should be President, I'm sure Hillary believes she deserves it |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 18:53 |
They all suck, but I doubt they're realy gonna F*ck up anything.
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Shakespeare
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 19:12 |
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Christian Vander. Seriously, I have no idea who all those people are or what they can bring to the political table. My vote goes to whoever is furthers left. |
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 20:40 |
Vander isn't a US citizen, so he isn't eligible.
JOHN ZORN 2008! |
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Shakespeare
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 20:45 |
sew troo sew troo. Man, if John Zorn was the president, it would be like
"I am imposing a new law. It goes like this....one, two, three, four, O*Q@W#NDQXY8qiuhqioUI190-898198918WIOUHOJ2OIN2POJKJKKJ*(@*&@#&*^!@#(!((((!)!)!_W_WWS XXXXX" |
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 20:46 |
Dude, I would totally vote for the Zorn/Frith ticket. Their motto would be like "We'll make every city Naked City."
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Shakespeare
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 18 2006 Status: Offline Points: 7744 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 20:53 |
I think we are slowly veering this thread towards Just For Fun. |
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Mikerinos
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Planet Gong Status: Offline Points: 8890 |
Posted: January 13 2008 at 23:20 |
Before voting, check this out:
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/ Not 100% accurate but is much more informative than voting based off of TV snippets. I matched closest to Kucinch and Gravel (both have little chance to put it lightly), with the other dems all similar and behind. The only republican that I didn't get a negative score with was Ron Paul, go figure. Giuiliani still makes me cringe, he uses the words "terrorism" and "9/11" more than dizty, stereotypical girls use the word "like." |
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markosherrera
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 01 2006 Location: World Status: Offline Points: 3252 |
Posted: January 14 2008 at 09:49 |
Obama and John Edwards are good options ,but the next president is Hillary Clinton....a Democrat.Whe Clinton was President the USA economy was better.
If Giuliani wins ..perhaps he will continue the politics of Bush
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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IVNORD
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 13 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1191 |
Posted: January 15 2008 at 10:12 |
Considerin the fact that it was a bubble economy in its early stages, it was definetely better than the mature bubble economy of today. Clinton created the bubble economy, great achievement
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20248 |
Posted: January 16 2008 at 04:40 |
For some reasons I don't see Hillarious getting in >>she crying/upset session after the Iowa caucus must've displeased more than a few, including me. Most likely she'll get in as Democrat candidate and has a fair chance at getting it, though
I don't believe Obama will conquer the democratic seat and if he does, I believe the Reps will win it for a third mandate ina row.... (too many whites not willing to vote for a black candidate)
So I think this Edwards guy will most likely make it either as prez or vice-prez
on the Rep side, I'm not that familiar with the candidate's names, but I just hope the friggin' pastor/priest gets crushed very quickly (in New Hampshire hopefully) Edited by Sean Trane - January 16 2008 at 04:41 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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