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Soul Dreamer 
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 Topic: Top 5 ever in progmetal
Posted: November 23 2007 at 12:03 |
Very difficult to choose only 5, 10 would have been more appropriate...
Well, limiting myself to only one album per band it would look something like this
- Dream Theater: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
- Riverside: Second Life Syndrome
- Ayreon: Into The Electric Castle
- Symphony X: The Divine Wings of Tragedy
- Vanden Plas: Christ 0
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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Norbert
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Posted: November 23 2007 at 09:09 |
To make it easier I consider now only the "regular" prog metal bands, no post and extreme this time. But it's still thoug enough.
So the going gets though and the though gets going as Peter Gabriel wrote:
5 brilliant albums in chronological order:
Fates Warning:Awaken the Guardian
Dream Theater:Images and Words
Fates Warning. A Pleasant Shade of Gray
Pain of Salvation.Entropia
Pain of salvation:the Perfect Element Pt 1.
Honourable mention to DT's Awake, V and Divine Wings by Symphony X, Pain of Salvations other albums, except Scarsick.
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Dim
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:47 |
Ermmm... DT, no thanks.
I hate listing my favirotes. If you really want to know, check out Omega Massif!
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:35 |
Admit it, you want to join the brotherhood, dont you? Spread the love man! 
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The T
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:25 |
EDIT: (now that I read my answer, count me in)....
Edited by The T - November 22 2007 at 20:26
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el böthy
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:24 |
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The T
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:22 |
 Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
Yes of course T.
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Count me in!
(though I hate to give blood...can't stand the needles...) 
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JayDee
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 19:23 |
Yes of course T.
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The T
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 15:12 |
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
The T wrote:
archivep wrote:
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
archivep wrote:
1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet. |
Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:
Pain of Salvation- Entropia
Dream Theater- Awake
Tool- Lateralus
Symphony X- V
Ayreon- The Human Equation
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No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend. |
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
My top-five:
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
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I wrote "In no particular order". And I often don't consider my opinions as absolute facts. We both agree that there are much more better album than Images and Words. I reacted when he wrote "it has not been reached yet",,,, that I don't think so, and is really quite an overstatement. There's no need for much argument really. 
btw, my name is not Mike.   |
You avatar fooled me....
Sorry man, you're most definitely not Mike...
And good answer anyway. Though he has the right to think that Images and Words is a peak that hasn't been reached yet.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:40 |
Ugh this is impossible...and completely unrepresentative of my metal tastes.
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element
Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
Death - Symbolic
Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:11 |
Dream Theater- Scenes from a Memory Pain of Salvation- Be Dream Theater- Awake Opeth- Blackwater Park Devin Townsend- Ziltoid the Omniscient not exactly representative of all aspcets of the genre but IMO the top 5 for me 
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King Crimson776
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Posted: November 22 2007 at 01:02 |
Dream Theater - Images & Words
Tool - Lateralus
Dream Theater - Train of Thought
Tool - Aenima
Death - The Sound of Perseverance
... I know, I know, it's just that most prog metal sucks  Could we count In Absentia and Deadwing by Porcupine Tree?
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Proletariat
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 19:31 |
Death - The sound of Perserverance
Tool - Lateralus
Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood
Meshuggah - I
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tounge
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 19:17 |
in first place i will put any album by Ayreon , ARK "Burn The Sun" is great album, i think my cd is no longer in use because i play it so many times, every album by Death is exiting but Human is just.... perfect ,
Opeth - Blackwater park , i think it is a masterpiece and
Pain of Salvation - The perfect element part I .... no comment oh wait i forget ......SHADOW GALLERy now that is a bend that have some good albums  edit no i forgot MAYDOME what great band!
Edited by Komodo dragon - November 21 2007 at 19:29
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 18:33 |
No order:
Sieges Even - A Sense of Change
Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
Dream Theater - Awake
Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 17:06 |
The T wrote:
archivep wrote:
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
archivep wrote:
1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet. |
Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:
Pain of Salvation- Entropia
Dream Theater- Awake
Tool- Lateralus
Symphony X- V
Ayreon- The Human Equation
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No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend. |
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
My top-five:
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
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I wrote "In no particular order". And I often don't consider my opinions as absolute facts. We both agree that there are much more better album than Images and Words. I reacted when he wrote "it has not been reached yet",,,, that I don't think so, and is really quite an overstatement. There's no need for much argument really.
btw, my name is not Mike.
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Trickster F.
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:48 |
This is simply too hard. Coming up with five is impossible, if only because I'd have to restrict myself to picking this few from about 25-30 albums I'd give (or have given) 4.5/5 stars. And just thinking about having to choose out Agalloch album out of three seems like an impossible task (if I pick, I'm not giving other hypermasterpieces the attention they deserve).
I'll remember to think about it though, good thread.
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The T
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 13:42 |
archivep wrote:
Majestic_Mayhem wrote:
archivep wrote:
1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet. |
Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:
Pain of Salvation- Entropia
Dream Theater- Awake
Tool- Lateralus
Symphony X- V
Ayreon- The Human Equation
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No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend. |
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
My top-five:
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
Edited by The T - November 21 2007 at 13:43
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Era V.
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:45 |
I could never put Dream Theater anywhere in a top 5 list. Unless that list was top 5 great bands with a singer who can't perform live and whose 'melodies' are as mundane as fish and chips.
1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
2. Death - Sound of Perseverance
3. Cynic - Focus
4. Tool - Lateralus
5. Atheist - Elements
Unfortunately there's very little prog-metal with clean vocals that appeals to me. If only Dream Theater and Fate's Warning and them had singers more like Rob Lowe!
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el böthy
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Posted: November 21 2007 at 10:36 |
- Tool - Lateralus (the only perfect album in the metal genre if you ask me)
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Opeth - Blackwater park
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Moonsorrow - V Havitetty (not in the archives, but it can be seen as progressive)
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Pain of Salvation - The perfect element part I
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Fredik Thordendal´s Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
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