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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 10:27
Yes Claire, it's a 2007 release. Got it from Wayside (there's so much more stuff I want from there... but I have reached the limit of purchases... I think I've reached a new record... somewhere between 100-120 cd's in a few months....).
 
Check out the other bands I mentioned in my posts in the previous page - not prog-rock but prog nonetheless.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 10:32
100 Cd's in a few months!!!??? Shocked
That's more than you'll have time to listen to and "digest"!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 10:45
^^^
Yes, that is part of the problem indeed.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 10:47

So that those don't get lost, here's a reminder of the bands mentioned in the previous page:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
 
Received this promo from Marcello from Altr0ck last week and its a grower. Melodic, exciting, many interesting ideas, a lot of variety in there. Should appeal to both jazz-rock and avant-rock folks.
 
One  of the highlights of this year, even though it is a sort of re-release from last year.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

On another note, I've posted here before about me starting to explore the music/noise of Supersilent (which was also a major reason for me to start the thread "Is There A Line Between Music & Noise) and I have so far came across the first 4 albums and I can spot a progerssion as I advanced, a sort of being less raw, less blurry and becoming a bit more focused, but maybe that's just me....
 
Anyway, I thought of giving you some links to read about the band:
 
All About Jazz - reviews and an article - http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/musician.php?id=15353
 
 
 
Their Unofficial website - http://www.supersilence.net/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

To mention another group I discovered lately - I was sent a promo copy of the 2007 release by the experimental progressive music group Random Touch called A True Conductor Wears A Man.
I have already started writing the review (I'll post it here when it's done as well as in Progressive Ears.com who were those who sent me the cd's).
I was so impressed with what I heard that I proceeded to go to their website and order their other albums.
 

This is not rock, not your average music or progressive music for that matter (but progressive it is, just not what is usually meant when I hear references to it).

This is a mix of sounds made by various instruments in a way that creates some tunes, ambiances, atmospheric textures, energetic patterns and some melodic lines.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Another very good and interesting release in this ballpark is Annie Gosfield's - Flying Sparks & Heavy Machinery which was released through Tzadik
 
Fascinating music, done in a different way
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 10:49
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

^^^
Yes, that is part of the problem indeed.
 
 
 
Were they cheap, or are you living in a dumpster now? LOLEmbarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 11:06
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

^^^
Yes, that is part of the problem indeed.
 
 
 
Were they cheap, or are you living in a dumpster now? LOLEmbarrassed
 
LOL
We're coming close to that actually (which is why I must quit, but I admit I have a problem - I'm addicted to this.... Embarrassed).
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 11:56
Check out Trond's new project (from Panzerpappa)
Tr-Ond & The Suburban Savages
http://www.myspace.com/thesuburbansavages
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 16:23
As I said in one of my previous posts, I received the promo of the 2007 release by the group Random Touch called A True Conductor Wears A Man.
 
Here is the review I wrote for it (to be featured in Progressive Ears.com and on my own Myspace blog).
 
Random Touch - A True Conductor Wears A Man
 

Moving between the Random and the Planned

 

The name of this group might give a hint at what is going on here. But then again, I don't think anything is random here, maybe not well planned ahead, but if this is random, then the outcome is one hell of an organized mess for such a thing, though improvisation seems to have been part of the process.

 

This is not rock (though you will find some rock parts in it), not your average music or progressive music for that matter (but progressive it is, just not what is usually meant when I hear or read references to it).

 

This is a mix of sounds made by various instruments in a way that creates some tunes, ambiances, atmospheric textures, energetic patterns and some melodic lines. You might have a more abstract and amorphic track, and then a clearer, more defined and structured one with one leading instrument rather than a mix of electronic sounds.

 

This is indeed unique both in the way it's done and in the resulting music.

I personally am greatly appealed to this form of music, this crafting of sounds. I find this to be not only original and exceptional, but also (and some might find it weird) beautiful and ear-friendly. While you might think that this is a mesh of sounds unrelated to one another, this is not at all the case. Every instrument used, every sound played is well accepted by its surroundings; everything fits, and the various combinations of different sounds gives at each given moment a different colour to the music. This, in fact, gives another complex and diverse aspect to the music.

 

I find it fascinating how these musicians take what instruments they have at their disposal and then think what they'll do with it in such a special and captivating way. They go about from spacey bits to moments which to me represent more nervous, tense and erratic emotions.

 

Not all tracks are to my taste in this album (track 5 – Something Worth Waiting For is one such track with spoken modified vocals). But overall, I find this album to be very creative and satisfying. There is a good flow to it, as the tracks move from one to the other in a way that keeps a certain continuity to it, following a hidden thread. It is not, however, an album I will play in any occasion. This is an album that I personally need to play when alone and probably at night, when I'm in a mood that will be more inclined to perceive such music.  

 

One other album this recording reminded me of, is Annie Gosfield's Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery which was released on Tzadik in 2001. Not at all the same sounding music, but I feel the same artistic drive in the use of not ordinary tools to create a special form of music.

 

I think this should be tried out by people who think they want or can deal with music that is not made the "usual" way, music that can be abstract and formless many times, music that is not made up of tunes, or necessarily melodic. This will be a test to the minds of those that want a challenge. For those who are well-versed in this sort of music, I think you will find a very interesting album here, something to look for.

 

I can imagine the faces of friends who, if heard this album, would be shocked that I listen to such noise and senseless babbling of notes and just pure racket. This album is obviously not intended for them.

 

If you can appreciate both the intent and the execution of this type of music, then I would recommend this album to you.

For those who dare…

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 16:32
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
 
Sounds very interesting..just might have to do that..thanks for the info!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 16:55
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Yes Claire, it's a 2007 release. Got it from Wayside (there's so much more stuff I want from there... but I have reached the limit of purchases... I think I've reached a new record... somewhere between 100-120 cd's in a few months....).
 
Check out the other bands I mentioned in my posts in the previous page - not prog-rock but prog nonetheless.
 
 
Thanks Avestin! I'm gettin' there, slowly but.. [ach this backlog!]..I listened to Seamus last night and I really liked that also. I would vote it into artrock/eclectic, not avant/rio though. Interesting note: Thomas Hayes thinks they are zeuhl [of which 'magma would be proud' he says] - I can see his point actually [in terms of concept/compositional slant/construction [operatic..] actually..
 
"Seamus - Zealotry Sterblichen Schizophrenia. 2002. One of the more unusual pieces to surface of late. Seamus are a new French group (though recordings date to 2002) influenced by the Teutonic side of the Zeuhl school. They have a sort of punk angst about them that recall the obscure Mexican 90痴 group Vector Escoplo. For the few who know VE, I sense a wince, but fear not, as Seamus are not near as annoying as that bunch. Runaway Totem would be another obvious reference but not as slavish as that Italian collective. Seamus have carved a unique fresco in the Zeuhl landscape. I think Magma would be proud, if not a bit spooked that the family tree could spawn this. Try this one out if you lean in these directions. " Thomas Hayes
http://www.thomashayes.com/alisters/seamus.htm
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 17:24
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
 
Sounds very interesting..just might have to do that..thanks for the info!
 
You were spot on about Noodband, by the way - if Etron Fou Leloublan had been a double trio they'd have sounded exactly like that. Yet another gem which deserves a decent CD reissue! 
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 18:00
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Mike McLatchey    24-April-2001 En Regardant Passer Le Temps

Carpe Diem - En Regardant Passer Le Temps
(Musea FGBG 4122.AR, 1975/1994, CD)

This may be one of the longest anticipated CD reissues of all time for progressive rock, the great Carpe Diem's debut album. Hailing from Nice (where Shylock, Step Ahead and Visitors are from), this quintet produced two albums of very high quality before being lost in the turn of the decade. En Regardant Passer Le Temps is a supremely excellent example of progressive rock, especially of the French scene, on par with the greats - Atoll, Shylock's Ile De Fievre, Pulsar Halloween, Arachnoid, Terpandre, and Artcane Odyssee. It took hints from the past and combined them to express something new and unique.

Carpe Diem had their roots in the early English symphonic rock style - King Crimson, a little Van Der Graaf Generator, East of Eden and to a lesser extent Marsupilami, yet their music incoporated that distinctly French filter, an approach that occasionally sounds similar to Gong or Moving Gelatine Plates. Their music was spacey and atmospheric with that rare sense of professional restraint that only the classic symphonic groups had like PFM, Banco, or Ezra Winston. The result was a slightly jazzy and very spacious music of a fragile and delicate nature, yet with a sense of power that grows behind the complex musical structures. Throughout the four tracks, their melodies are very harmonically rich and refined, often with three parts from keys, sax, and guitar. This album is an essential, a classic that has surely stood the test of time.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 18:26

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 19:23

^^^

Sounds interesting, I'll have a look as well.
 
 
 
To all others, this will interest you all:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 19:45
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Sounds interesting, I'll have a look as well.
  
To all others, this will interest you all:
 
 
 
will have to check it out, thanks -
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

 
(there's so much more stuff I want from there... but I have reached the limit of purchases... I think I've reached a new record... somewhere between 100-120 cd's in a few months....).
 
Lord! You're even worse than I am! I try to limit myself to between 12-25 a month..but when I have a little extra moola, watch out! lol - it's an addiction indeed! In a few months I'm moving in w/ my beau who's a vinyl maniac and has thousands and thousands of lps, among other things [legit CDs & CDRs]. my lps only run at around at about 500 or 600, cds though, well into the thousands..along with my 6, 6 ft bookshelves, we may have to re- enforce our floors :)..O materialism...well, at least they're all pretty damned high relics of creative culture, oui? ; )

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:54
Holy F---! Check out this band [ZS]*! A friend gave me the s/t 10" for my b-day, and I'm quite sent...
 
 
[once again, I think you will esp dig it szy]


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 20:59

^^^

Yeah, we talked about them here before, pretty intesnse. Should be added.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2007 at 21:51

ZS? really? Not sure how I missed that..must have been away or before i joined..

Well, I def. agree they should be added!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2007 at 23:40
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Welcome Hamfari, hope you find some stuff you enjoy..
Some of fave rio & related avant bands off the top of my head [hefty list hmm? ;).. though some may just be too off for an intro..?]:
Art Bears
News from Babel
Cassiber
5uu's
Non Credo
Slapp Happy / Henry Cow [Desperate Straights]
Skeleton Crew
Stormy Six
Pocket Orchestra
Unrest, Work & Play
Motor Totemist Guild
U Totem
Ahvak
Absolute Zero
Doctor Nerve
Bablicon
This Heat
Larval/Bill Brovold
Pak [ron anderson] - if yr into sleepytime/mr bungle/patton, this should be rgt up yr ally..
La STPO
ZU
Lindsay Cooper
Andre Duchesne - Les Tempes des Bombes
Heiner Goebbels & Alfred Harth - Indianer Für Morgen
Plastic People of the Universe
Tipographica [if you like a jazz slant, but if you like Zappa I imagine..]
Akinetón Retard
Förträngt Hushållsarbete
Yugen
Hoyry-Kone
Ne Zhdali
Uz Jsme Doma
Magma [zeuhl]
Eskaton [zeuhl]
ZAO [zeuhl]
Dun [zeuhl]
Pochakaite Malko [zeuhl]
Shub-Niggurath [zeuhl]
Bondage Fruit [zeuhl]
 
 


I couldn't find many reviews pertaining to the bands I put in bold.  Could any of you guys help me out with which albums I should seek by these bands? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2007 at 11:57
Just a comment...
 
Förträngt Hushållsarbete is Repressed Householdwork in english Smile


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